• TheFogan@programming.dev
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    12 hours ago

    Pretty true, obviously most racist biggots don’t see themselves as racist biggots. They don’t see us as “open minded” they see us as close minded to their views.

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      12 hours ago

      Depends on the person. I’ve been told to my face without a hint of irony that “you’re so open minded all your brains fell out”.

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        Being convinced to give a shit about other people just shows that you’re gullible, to them.

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        I spent most of my childhood being repeatedly informed by my incredibly Republican family that I lack common sense.

        Yet, I have the common sense to know that if you let people do whatever the fuck they want to do with their own bodies and lives then they’ll stay the fuck out of your body and your life.

        Perhaps that is an uncommon sense. However, it should be a common sense but the people who claim to have common sense fail to understand that consistently.

        Maybe common sense is not all it’s cracked up to be.

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          Common sense is a thought terminator. It’s just “everyone who’s smart agrees with this”. It’s common sense you shouldn’t inject any aspect of a disease causing pathogen into people. It’s common sense that you can’t burn so much stuff you make the whole sky smoky or permanently warm the planet. It’s common sense that you don’t share an ancestor with an oak tree. Now none of that is true. You should get vaccines, uncontrolled combustion creates smog and contributes to global warming, and all eukaryotic organisms share a common ancestor. But if you phrase things right and say it’s obvious people will agree with your false statements and think people are over educated idiots for being right.

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      12 hours ago

      And, their views typically do not include the things that most of the people I know hate the most about the platform that they ascribe to.

      They just think being Republican will make them wealthier or fix problems in the country or make the world a better place.

      The single issue voters have an opinion on a single issue and everything else doesn’t matter compared to that one thing.

      They don’t care about all of the bad as long as the single bit of good can be accomplished, and they don’t care if you think that single bit of good is a bad thing.

      They don’t care to talk to or be dissuaded by their family members who are not approaching them with a spirit of love and care for them.

      Beside that, it’s not mentally or emotionally healthy to live spring-loaded with ontological traps that can be fired off with a single phrase to bring down judgment and the fires of hell on the people you meet.

      They’re not going to want to hear you if that’s what you’re bringing to the table.

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        Of course, after Trump in the white house, it’s kinda irrelevant.

        Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.
        That word is “Nazi.” Nobody cares about their motives anymore.
        They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?

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          Sure, let’s just casually label half the fucking country as Nazis. That definitely worked last time.

          Prime fucking example of exactly what their first comment was talking about.

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            It’s not a nice way to say it, but it is important to distinguish conservatism from the current situation where you have conservatives supporting nazis, planning concentration camps, and planning to pull a Hong Kong-style silencing of the opposition.

            It is important to tell conservatives that the guy they voted for has gone off the deep end. For diplomatic reasons, I would probably avoid emotional words and say something along the lines of “we’re concerned that Trump plans to illegally block the democratic party from elections and trans people and immigrants may have to flee the country in the face of workplace discrimination or outright persecution and violence. His politicization of the military could lead to another coup attempt.”

            But that’s just part of how you defuse fascism, those are the words you use with both Putin supporters and Trump supporters.

            There is no place on earth and no time in history where “guh, inflation” is a reasonable excuse to vote for a nazi.

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            “We” aren’t labeling “them” anything. They literally sided with Neo-Nazis. People carrying swastika flags in support of Trump, and you think “not Nazis” were ok with that? Sorry friend, but no. If someone is okay to march with Nazis, they’re a fucking Nazi.