Complete fucking meltdown by a large number of crackers on here (and other sites) over a fucking act of adventurism all because they want free healthcare in the imperial core. So many asses out on display.

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from wanting to be a concentration camp guard to a communist in a month, and using this to defend tailism, and crackers are defending them

Bad empanada Ig had an idea on opposing imperial core ex-military corps

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Westerners tend to associate heroism with the act of killing. If no one dies then it is not a heroic act just a good thing to do.

Like even if I gave them the benefit of analyzing the conditions that lead to them having those views as adolocents (learned from parents, peers, just society in general, poor material conditions, etc.) the fact that at the drop of a hat they’ll revert to those views or try and tell off the legitimate concerns from POC over someone’s problematic views makes me think that they haven’t really completely gotten rid of that part of themselves. White privilege really is alive and well among these people.

I feel the same when I see someone talking about how they used to be in the USAmerican military

For every infinitely rare Luigi that kills the “right” person, there are a gigantic and far greater number of Luigis who have the same exact views and point their guns down the social ladder.

Having a white hexbear who has never experienced racism understand that is too much to bear.

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I think when I wake up in the morning I’ll make an effort post on chapo or whatever about this. Leftists fell for the same shit in the 1920s through the 40s and Hitler talked about how easy it was to lure them in several times.

Apparently whites here on hexbear.net need a reminder of how things went down, if they learned it at all in the first place. Then there’s Daryl Davis having supposedly “reforming” KKK members, who use him as a screen and call him the n-word behind his back.

While it is possible to rehabilitate reactionaries, it takes time and effort. Sometimes it takes years. Unlearning bigotry (especially racism, sexism, and queerphobia) is a lot like learning a new language. Unless you’re immersed in it, you are going to struggle. Learning is immediately undone the second you leave the classroom and enter back right into your native language. People on this Norwegian owl fencing website don’t seem to get it.

They’ll have to excuse me if I’m not lining up to worship at the alter of a guy who is most likely a Yarvin follower and throws out racist dogwhistle like DEI. You can be glad the CEO is dead, hell shit post about the luigi guy in ironic ways …but I saw someone calling this praxis like… Huh? Reel it in

the responses to that mod thread have me screaming. hexbear users love an opportunity for tailism i guess

Hold on so because he got a bunch of people on Facebook to say yeaaaah kill that CEO… Hes some kind of hero to be venerated? The same people RIGHT NOW that are celebrating the lowering of charges of the guy that killed the homeless guy? How much of this is "raising class consciousness " vs just bloodthirsty enthusiasm to people that slight them because the latter casts a wide net for certain people for just existing and that includes poc or lgbt folks and the enthusiasm will be just the same I promise you.

“But but for one moment the left and right agreed that a healthcare CEO was a dickhead” This wave will die down faster than the CEO got replaced and the same beckys and chads will be cheering as black folks latino folks rights continually get stripped under this administration. Fuck that CEO… But what are we doing here

Yeah, its a bit awkward to say the least. Like, sure he could have changed his views in the 2 or so years since he went mostly offline, but until I see more concrete evidence I’m not gonna be celebrating him [largely] uncritically like I see some people doing.

Yeah i was so confused about what people that post was talking about until i actually started browsing and saw people trying to make em a john brown-esqe folk hero.

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For real. When I posted in the mod announcement thread I made sure to make it clear that I just wanted people to be smarter about how they are approaching this whole situation and not to make it about celebrating this guy until we know that he doesn’t still hold these racist/xenophobic views. It still got someone agitated enough to have a whole debate about it.

I should have known better because as soon as I started seeing people talking about how “beautiful” it was to see the left and right come together it should have indicated just how much shit they were willing to accept even if it meant waving off the concerns of the empoc userbase here (and possibly IRL too, with how some people were talking in that thread, which is what matters most)

23 year olds aren’t capable of critical thinking

laughs in Fred Hampton

Some ppl actually using “he’s only 26” as an excuse, where’s the fuckin cutoff lmao

I remember being 23 once and I never had such fucked up views like the Italian while struggling with almost every facet of life (financially, socially, and mentally to start). The defence via “the person was x years old so how was the person supposed to have critical thinking ability?” is so fucking tiresome and really makes me wonder if this is some anglo white thing.

Also my main problem with that take is that there is 0 evidence that the dude stopped being a chud, and all points out that he is still a chud

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Yeah… I’m just gonna disengage from that thread and maybe even the rest of the site. I believe people change and there’s an inkling of a chance that he may have somehow found his way, but like I’ve said, I need to see it before I can write that stuff off.

I’ve missed out on a lot of previous struggle sessions including the ones that have affected some of our fellow EM_POC posters, but participating in this one and seeing how many people on hexbear can so easily write off reactionary thought is seriously disheartening. I just don’t have the energy for it anymore.

There’s a good fd signifier video on white edgelords and why so many of these cis male white shooters (whether they shoot CEOs or random people) may feel so compelled to commit these acts of violence. I think a lot of hexbears don’t want to admit that the CEO assassin is probably closer to the white media rep of the Joker than the American anarchists of the past.

There are so many media representations of white leads committing great acts of violence because they see it as them fixing society or lashing out, Falling Down is a good example especially considered the dude got caught at a McDonalds when he should have been in Mexico already, he is deeply connected to his status as a USAmerican and much like the leads of these stories, isn’t going to throw that away.

There is nothing mystical, elusive or hidden about real working class consciousness. It is the political awareness that the exploiting class and its State must be fought, that the laboring masses of the world have unity in their need for socialism.

“More for me {in the west}” is no the same slogan as “liberate humanity {from Capital, especially but not exclusively to the West}”

Amen!

oh im writing that down

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Mandem acting like being cautious around a fucking dark enlightenment, yarvin technobro reactionary means purity politics… Even though no one cares about the CEO. Watch this space when the inauguration happens. See if this Jackie Aprile, Jr lookin dude doesn’t cosign the shit that is gonna screw over many because that dark enlightenment shit is a main driving force of this admin.

I am so ready to cut off my reactionary family members once my mom passes away. I sure as shit don’t tolerate reactionary people as “friends.” Maybe I have a personality disorder, but I have little patience these days for even the slightest chud behavior.

Hey, you know that three letter agency that regularly fucks over empoc all over the world to uphold white supremacy? Well you are doing exactly what they would want you to do for arguing with me over my support of a white supremacist

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cracker’s emotional support fashlet

when i was 17 i had box braids and my boss called me the preditor and tried to make my coworkers call me it too. when i was 19 my black boss forced me to cover my natural hair because it was “unprofessional” I had negative money at this time so I just had to throw a beanie over it.

There have been lawsuits in the US over discrimination based on hair. A lot of companies banned their employees from having dreadlocks or afros, so people had to spend all this money to get unnatural hair styles to fit the company dress code. In court the plaintiffs argued it was unreasonable to make them pay for this stuff out of pocket while white employees could get normal haircuts.

I’m not 100% sure what happened with those cases, but I do know a lot of businesses have gotten more lax about hair, piecings, and tattoos.

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Everyday I learn something about this damned country