• funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
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    5 days ago

    Unpopular opinion, probably, but if your hobby, such as hiking, sewing, reading, improv comedy… kills more children than car crashes, someone should be allowed to take a look at stopping that. Unless the hobby is guns, of course, of course.

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      5 days ago

      I think the comment was more about politicians banning weapons based on how they look. It really doesn’t matter how a firearm aesthetically looks, and politicians should use their capabilities to determine if they should be banned. I know that this is an issue to a degree in the US. I don’t know about Canada.

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        5 days ago

        I think the person I replied to was begging the question a little by saying “gun control advocates want to ban guns on how they look.”

        I dont think any serious participant in the discussion is saying guns are ok under any circumstances so long as if they look silly.

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      5 days ago

      if we’re gonna ban stuff just based on deaths, we should get rid of fast food, soda, cigarettes, alcohol, and cars in general

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        5 days ago

        I’d argue that food and drink, cigarettes and cars are already regulated more than US guns. For example, it’s illegal to sell soup out of the trunk of my car in some jurisdictions where I could sell a gun under the same circumstances.

        We can dive into specifics if you want, I’m sure you’ll be able to find some examples, and counter examples, but I don’t think that’s especially a fruitful conversation.

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          argue that food and drink, cigarettes and cars are already regulated more than US guns

          i’d disagree. of course, I agree that all these items are regulated. which makes sense for all the same reasons- a lot of people die if you fuck up. but you don’t need an id and a background check to buy a McDonalds combo meal

          I’m sure you’ll be able to find some examples, and counter examples, but I don’t think that’s especially a fruitful conversation.

          maybe not but your example

          it’s illegal to sell soup out of the trunk of my car in some jurisdictions where I could sell a gun under the same circumstances

          I think the opposite is true. There’s a ton of places I can sell soup, especially if it’s pre-packaged and inspected by the FDA. for example I can go to walmart and buy a bunch of canned soup and sell that all day, no problem. In most of this country, however, you cannot just sell guns from the back of your car

          sure, there are exceptions in certain states. for example a private seller who is not in the regular business of selling guns, there are specific states that allow you to do so with significantly less scrutiny than a dealer. although you still have the responsibility to do a basic check (is person old enough, what is person buying gun for)

          beyond that, the overwhelming majority of gun sales go through Federal Firearms Licensed businesses. which conduct background checks and check ID.

          tldr: if you’re in one of the few states that allow it and you want to sell 1 or 2 guns out of the back of your car, OK. if you are anywhere else and/or you sell more than a couple guns, you’re liable to get hit with some very serious federal and state charges. like potentially years in the federal penitentiary type charges

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            5 days ago

            you don’t need an ID or a background check to buy a gun, gunshow loophole baby!