With Mull no longer being developed I’ve decided to just use vanadium since im on grapheneos. I use librewolf on desktop and would like input on how people manage bookmarks. Floccus seemed good until i saw it doesnt actually import bookmarks into browser on android.
I don’t, i very occasioanly use Chrome and have zero interest in having my boomarks there.
Which doesn’t answer your questuon :)
Floccus
Someone forked Mull and is still maintaining it: https://gitlab.com/ironfox-oss/IronFox
Obviously it’s early days so we’ll have to see if this is a sustainable alternative.
I use Vivaldi sync e2ee (Bookmarks, Passwords, Apps, Extensions, Notes, Reader lists, Tabs, Auto complete, History) and Zen Browser as second, without account and sync, because Mozilla has turned into an advertising company, instead importing datas from Vivaldi.
I use degooglechrome (flatpak - Fedora) for the moronic sites that are too encumbered with trackers and other shite to ever load on Firefox. In the UK that would be the National Lottery website as an example. If it loads for you, you’re not as privacy conscious as you think.
To me, using Firefox would suggest that you don’t use Chrome for more than the odd few sites because you specifically use Firefox for privacy. That’s because Chrome goes out of its way to remove privacy eg. frustrating uBlock Origin.
I don’t sync bookmarks because I don’t want Google to have them too easily. I’m sure they have them but I didn’t offer them up knowingly.
I’m bound to ask: why do you use Firefox? Unless you’re a dev that has to cover all browsers.
Vivaldi use it’s own sync server since ever, Google don’t permit Google sync for other browser than Chrome itself, it’s a degoogled Chromium and no really need of extensions, due to inbuild blocker and other tools, even Dark Mode for websites and Page Filters. It has less relations with Google than Mozilla, where your account data is shared with Alphabet (a no-go for me). But yes, it’s the only Chromium usable related to privacy. Vivaldi’s business modell isn’t based on ads or third party investors, It is the only EU Browser, apart the KDE Konqueror, on eye level to the US (Chinese) hegemony of big Companies (my Main reason to use it)
Where are you? Brit here.
Feels like we’re fighting a losing battle to people who you simply don’t care about privacy, who use the built in browser of the OS; the default.
Strangely, when I asked them for their home address and peccadillos they always refuse/walk away. They even ask me to turn away when they enter passwords. What’s that about?!
Spain here. Yes, most listened argument “I’ve nothing to hide” or “Companies already knows all about you” and similar BS. You can’t do more than warn them, explaining that online privacy is synonymous with security, if they don’t pay attention, well, Darwin approves.
Data that companies sell to others puts it outside our control, we do not know how they treat and protect it or even continue to spread over the Internet.
Greetings to Spain!
To my mind, ‘they’ are going to get hold of your personal information, habits, pecadillos eventually. I don’t have to intentionally make it easy for them.
The lack of engagement by the public at large with the right to privacy; most people seem to have given up, resigned to being completely owned.
It is not that difficult to prevent private and important data from being leaked. It’s not about becoming invisible, just slow browsing with TOR behind a VPN with difficulties on many web pages. We must differentiate between private data related to the person and the activity, this naturally must be hidden or spoofed as much as possible, and on the other hand technical data, necessary for the pages to be able to display the content properly (screen resolution, public IP to display the correct language, operating system, desktop or mobile, etc.). This is data that does not compromise privacy when it coincides with millions of other users. All other can be blocked with a good ad/trackerblocker and some common sense to avoid the existing traps and dirty tricks used by the compañies.
Thanks for the dirty ticks reference. That’s going to be fun to read! May give me an idea.
Much of my browsing these days is on account-based web pages and apps, so it’s unavoidable, but I use addy.io to avoid a single email address and try not to enter any identifying data like full name; and use one-time credit cards. I do what I can to minimise anything resembling a tracking file being on my PC for any length of time if it is downloaded at all (pi-hole, uBlock Origin, cookie autodelete, VPN, i2p, blah blah), but it’s a losing battle as we all know.
I’m trying to only interact with LLMs locally, and be generic with my queries for Perplexity (my current fav engine). With LLM being trained on all our data without our agreement, it’s a concern.
OpenAI say that they’re not making a profit on even their pro plan. You know what they say about free services and being the product.
Try Andi, it’s the most private (active privacy protection, anonymous, no account, no ads, no cookies, no logs, random proxie, own reader mode, watch YouTube videos sandboxed in the search results, apart the best in accuracy in an independent AI benchmark. I use it since 2 years as main search by default. https://andisearch.com/
It does not import directly, but you can export and then import on mobile.
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A key here is to use Floccus on one machine running Chrome and Firefox, and the normal sync on all other browsers. This simplifies things a lot. I use a Webbian instance on my server for it.
Used it for years. It’s great.
Whole point of using different browsers for me is keeping things seperate. I don’t sign into anything on Chrome, and all I use it for is …
Anyways, I wish I could just have multiple installs of a browser I almost trust, but keep the various categories of cookies and logins seperate from one another.
Have you tried firefox containers? It’s a bit clunky but it should do just that
I mean, I’m aware of the near-infinite ways to accomplish what I’ve described on PC or Mac. Android or iOS are the environments I’ve not found a convenient way around the limitations, and sadly where I do most of my content-consumption.
You can have multiple firefox profiles with different configurations and cookies run:
firefox -p
As I mentioned previously, I am aware of the options on PC.
mb, i didn’t read the post description
I host a Linkwarden instance on my NAS and keep everything in there.
Raindrop.io. I use the Firefox extension on desktop and the android app. Bookmarks are in the app, not actually in the browser, but it’s simple and it works. It also makes bookmarks easier to search.
First time hearing Mull isn’t being developed. Are there good alternatives?
It is fairly recent, as the solo dev of DivestOS and its applications (including Mull and Mulch) stopped development. I moved to Fennec for now.
xBrowserSync
Do you need them imported into browser? There’s not much downside to having them just in a bookmarks app independent of the browser, and the upside is you can freely switch browsers.
I just run a shaarli instance on an old laptop and keep all my bookmarks there and just access it from where/whatever.
