• SovietyWoomy [any]@hexbear.net
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    If the CIA was responsible and it comes out then it will form the justification necessary to reform and reorganise the entire apparatus of the US with the complete support of his base under the belief that these organisations could be used to kill him otherwise.

    He will be celebrated for destroying the “deep state” while actually what they’ll be creating is the new Sicherheitsdienst des Reichsführers-SS (SD).

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    Whatever needs to be redacted will be redacted. The worst files were burnt or never written down in the first place.

    That applies to more than just JFK.

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      yup it likes how we only have a tiny sliver of documents relating to mkultra. It’s public knowledge now that most of the documents relating to it were destroyed

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    yeah im sure the government documented how they assassinated these people and its all going to come to light now thx trump. they definitely wouldnt just write some bullshit that exonerates them from what we all know to be true and then release that as “declassification”

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      i mean the fact that Allen Dulles was one of the seven commissioners appointed to the Warren Commission should really say it all.

      from “The Devil’s Chessboard” (very good read) four years before Dulles died:

      That little Kennedy . . . he thought he was a god.”

      The words were sharp and wrong, like a curse shattering the civility of the soft evening air. They seemed particularly strange coming from the genial older gentleman strolling by Willie Morris’s side. In fact, they were the only strident remarks that Morris had heard him utter in the past few days, as the graying spymaster regaled his young visitor with a lifetime of covert adventures.

      And then the storm passed. The man was himself again—the chatty and amiable Allen Welsh Dulles, a man whose conviviality masked a world of dark secrets.

      real pappy bush ‘deluded gunman’ shit, these guys never hid what they did

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    Even if they come right out and say “it was the CIA”, I don’t think anything would really happen. It would be like the reveal of COINTELPRO.

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      I work with a lib who thinks it’s a silly conspiracy theory that the CIA would have been involved, and I get the vibe from him that he believes it would actually change things if the facts came out and it was actually the CIA behind it; I’ve spent a fair bit of time trying to convince him that unlike in the movies, when the facts come out and they reveal horrific stuff, people will just find reasons to be okay with it (as opposed to movies that give the impression that the truth coming out would cause change, as if America isn’t just a lib/chud wasteland).

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        “There’s no way it could have been the CIA. Their charter explicitly forbids them from operating on US soil!”

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        (as opposed to movies that give the impression that the truth coming out would cause change, as if America isn’t just a lib/chud wasteland).

        It is worth noting that this is a PERFECT crystallization of what idealism means (believing reality is shaped and transformed by thought).

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          That reminds me of an article I was reading about whether Trump would invade Mexico or not after classifying cartels as terrorist organizations.

          There were a bunch of people speaking about how it could go down, etc., and there was one dude whose contribution was to basically say, ‘What people who are saying there will be a military intervention forget is that it’s not that easy because it would essentially be a declaration of war.’ Wow. Really? That’s such a relief. That has definitely stopped the US from invading countries in the past! Fucking bozo dumbass.

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          I have an older friend who is really into aliens. It’s like, their thing. And they are completely 100% convinced that once the truth about aliens comes out it’s

          GOING

          TO

          CHANGE

          EVERTHING

          and my other friends and I try to tell them like “oh yeah, well you’re still gonna go to work the next day, I’m still gonna have to pay rent, and I’m still gonna want my coffee. ‘Knowing’ about aliens doesn’t really change any of that.”

          Like others have said, people will learn about things and find a way to square it with their life as already lived. And like you said, it’s absolute idealism. But this friend is convicned that we need no politics, no revolution, no change, just aliens, and that’ll do.

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        he believes it would actually change things if the facts came out and it was actually the CIA behind it

        Ah yes the classic “force the vote” argument.

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    Fuck! Had I heard this news just an hour earlier I could have been set for life on black sharpie stocks but nah shit closes at 4 pm eastern so I’m going to be poor forever.