I donāt understand you guys. We live in the best era possible in the best places of the world. First world, free of ailments of the poverty unlike other 85% of the planet. We donāt die out of hunger. We can earn money posting funny videos on the web and instagram or sitting in our chairs all day in AC temp controlled rooms.
We go back to home from work to watch milions of entertainment options, there are literally innumerable of them. You can import brushes made from animal living in some distant part of the world to your feet to paint some very intricate plastic works of art. You can get from one point of the globe to the other and back for a monthly wage flying in the skies. We squashed hundreds of diseases. We made an artificial network that lets you instantly communicate with everyone on earth.
Yet from the way you say things one could assume that we are in some kind of Middle Ages or worse.
I get the motivation to still achieve higher levels of civilisation and thatās what got us so far after all but I think some perspective is nice so you arenāt stuck in some crazy doomer bubble.
Patience. These things will come. they are as inevitable as the sun rising tomorrow. But they need time and people who work for them to happen. Women and general equal chances, justice and independence are all the things we work for. But they arenāt magic, they need time.
However the trends are unstoppable as the water in a river. a slight regression under trump is just a symptom of the reaction to the progressive change. Temporary bump on the road. Meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
I am proud to be a human. I am proud for us to pioneer cosmos one day. I am proud that we got so far and I am positive that we will achieve even greater feats.
I donāt understand you guys. We live in the best era possible in the best places of the world. First world, free of ailments of the poverty unlike other 85% of the planet. We donāt die out of hunger. We can earn money posting funny videos on the web and instagram or sitting in our chairs all day in AC temp controlled rooms.
You must be. EXTREMELY, UNIMAGINABLY privileged if youāre saying that.
Poverty is at a high it hasnāt been since the great depression, most people are one paycheck away from homelessness and destitution. And most of the ones that arenāt on the āone paycheckā threshold are instead in the āone emergencyā threshold instead, which is not much better.
In fact, if you have no debt and 20 dollars to your name you are officially wealthier than 90% of Americans. Donāt even need to be rich.
People rally around Luigi because what he did was incredibly cathartic, to punish one of the psychos responsible for our worldās rapid descent into some bizarre 1984-by-way-of-wall-e technodystopia. It might not accomplish anythingā¦ But it feels good. And people are desperate for some kind of good feeling.
Really I envy how naĆÆve you are if you canāt see the way things have been going steadily downhill since the eighties with no real improvement.
Also lmao at thinking we will āpioneer the cosmosā. Elon Musk bullshit. We have driven our own planet into a now-entirely-unstoppable mass extinction event, and in ~30 years weāll be struggling to produce enough food to feed ourselves, let alone going to some elysium in the stars.
Thereās worse places out there, to be sure. Chinaās worse, for one thing. Theyāre like America but you have a ton of limitations in what you can watch to distract you from the void. Russia whoās sending their own people to die over their dictatorās ego.
But Iād much rather be poor as a Brazilian citizen, where I have 100% free healthcare and education ā Than to be poor in the US of A where you leave your unfortunate citizens to their own and blame them for their misfortune.
Ofc, given Muricaās foreign-interference-y habits and whoās currently in charge of your country, we might just become a fascist dictatorship again and all our public services might get defunded. It happened in the sixties, it almost happened in the twenty-tens, it can happen again.
I still find it hard to believe USA is so bad all of a sudden. Itās just mind bending, itās hard to grasp how is it possible considering the statistics and strongest economy. I donāt think I will ever fully understand it.
One country instead of USA then for the āgrass is always greenerā fantasy I was kinda hoping to get into was New Zealand
China is literally right behind the US in āstrong economyā stats and some expect them to surpass itā¦ And that means jack and shit, because living in China fucking sucks, especially if you are under 30.
A strong economy means little if all that wealth is being used toā¦
ā¦ Uh. Kill people mostly.
Whereas the peopleās lives have been getting steadily worse since 1980.
You know the Simpsons? Itās just a cartoon, right? It was originally a parody of eighties-nineties America.
The Simpsons as they were written in the late eighties were meant to be a lower-class family. They still owned their own house (a large, two story suburban property at that!), their own car, and all on the income of just the man of the house. They were āpoorā by eighties standards because Bart didnāt always get all the newest and shiniest toys and they didnāt travel abroad every year.
The Simpsonsā economic situation hasnāt changed in the forty-ish years the show has existed for. But nowadays their lifestyle is considered insanely wealthy. There isnāt a single family in the US left that has their own home and car on the income of 1(one) man with a high school education, working for wages with no generational wealth, side hustles, or passive income. There just isnāt.
The fiction of the show has to make all sorts of excuses for that. It acts as an accidentally poignant time-capsule and depiction of how much the US of A has degenerated in the past 40 years. And the sad part is most of yāall seem to be cheering for this, or at least, resigned to the idea you canāt do shit about it ā Like ā This happened in America, these guys were Americans. Your ancestors took care of each other, in the face of authoritarian power, and often on the penalty of death. This is something you all seem to have forgotten.
Mind you, life has been getting steadily shittier since 1980 in ā The entire first world really. Neoliberalism has done a number and a half on society. Reagan and Thatcher are the reason we all hope hell is real so they can go there. The living standards your generation has are shite compared to what your (grand)parents knew.
This is not the case here in the Third Worldā¦ But thatās mostly because of how hard it sucked to live here in the sixties and seventies. Yeah, a messy society being eroded by cruel āausterityā measures is gonna be a dream come true when you are literally coming straight out of a military dictatorship that drained the countryās coffers and killed god knows how many people in the most cruel ways imaginable (thanks for that, by the way, US. Never would have happened without Operation Condor :3).
At least I can say I have like. A vote. And human rights after a fashion. And some hope that my life might maybe possibly not completely suck. All things with my parents didnāt have until they wereā¦ Literally in their mid thirties (which Iām close to but not quite at).
First world, free of ailments of the poverty unlike other 85% of the planet.
Excuse me, what? I know people living in poverty who can barely afford to keep a roof over their heads and donāt have heat/AC. I know people who cannot afford their nececary medications and are forced to go without or take out another credit card. I know people who were forced to start working at 14 in order to help their family survive. Not to mention the high rates of homelessness all over the country. You sound like you come from very privileged surroundings if you have not encountered this.
Additionally, a lot of actual third world countries actually try take care of their people. Itās far from perfect, in fact it kinda sucks. BUT. It is still miles better than the US that sees ābeing poorā as a moral failing that needs to be punished.
We live in the best era possible in the best places of the world.
Thatās what people thought during the so-called Roaring Twentyās before the Great Depression and World War 2 happened.
History repeats itself. People enjoy the highs; rest on their laurels; become too greedy and decadent; wealth inequality grows; the masses become pushed to extreme poverty; a demagogue comes claiming to save them; civil unrest happens; conflict happens; people learn and tell themselves never again; new wealth is generated; people become greedy again; wealth inequality happens again; demagogues reappear-- and the cycle continues. We have seen this happen from the ancient Chinese empires, the Roman empire, to the French, Germans, and now the USA. Just because it is good for now, it doesnāt mean the bad wonāt ever come even if the tell-tale signs are present. It is the calm before the storm after as they. If the wealth inequality is not stemmed in the USA like what happened under Franklin Roosevelt, the situation that happened in Germany might happen instead there.
I donāt understand you guys. We live in the best era possible in the best places of the world. First world, free of ailments of the poverty unlike other 85% of the planet. We donāt die out of hunger. We can earn money posting funny videos on the web and instagram or sitting in our chairs all day in AC temp controlled rooms.
We go back to home from work to watch milions of entertainment options, there are literally innumerable of them. You can import brushes made from animal living in some distant part of the world to your feet to paint some very intricate plastic works of art. You can get from one point of the globe to the other and back for a monthly wage flying in the skies. We squashed hundreds of diseases. We made an artificial network that lets you instantly communicate with everyone on earth.
Yet from the way you say things one could assume that we are in some kind of Middle Ages or worse.
I get the motivation to still achieve higher levels of civilisation and thatās what got us so far after all but I think some perspective is nice so you arenāt stuck in some crazy doomer bubble.
Patience. These things will come. they are as inevitable as the sun rising tomorrow. But they need time and people who work for them to happen. Women and general equal chances, justice and independence are all the things we work for. But they arenāt magic, they need time.
However the trends are unstoppable as the water in a river. a slight regression under trump is just a symptom of the reaction to the progressive change. Temporary bump on the road. Meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
I am proud to be a human. I am proud for us to pioneer cosmos one day. I am proud that we got so far and I am positive that we will achieve even greater feats.
You must be. EXTREMELY, UNIMAGINABLY privileged if youāre saying that.
Poverty is at a high it hasnāt been since the great depression, most people are one paycheck away from homelessness and destitution. And most of the ones that arenāt on the āone paycheckā threshold are instead in the āone emergencyā threshold instead, which is not much better.
In fact, if you have no debt and 20 dollars to your name you are officially wealthier than 90% of Americans. Donāt even need to be rich.
People rally around Luigi because what he did was incredibly cathartic, to punish one of the psychos responsible for our worldās rapid descent into some bizarre 1984-by-way-of-wall-e technodystopia. It might not accomplish anythingā¦ But it feels good. And people are desperate for some kind of good feeling.
Really I envy how naĆÆve you are if you canāt see the way things have been going steadily downhill since the eighties with no real improvement.
Also lmao at thinking we will āpioneer the cosmosā. Elon Musk bullshit. We have driven our own planet into a now-entirely-unstoppable mass extinction event, and in ~30 years weāll be struggling to produce enough food to feed ourselves, let alone going to some elysium in the stars.
So what you want to tell me is that the America sucks?
Thereās worse places out there, to be sure. Chinaās worse, for one thing. Theyāre like America but you have a ton of limitations in what you can watch to distract you from the void. Russia whoās sending their own people to die over their dictatorās ego.
But Iād much rather be poor as a Brazilian citizen, where I have 100% free healthcare and education ā Than to be poor in the US of A where you leave your unfortunate citizens to their own and blame them for their misfortune.
Ofc, given Muricaās foreign-interference-y habits and whoās currently in charge of your country, we might just become a fascist dictatorship again and all our public services might get defunded. It happened in the sixties, it almost happened in the twenty-tens, it can happen again.
I still find it hard to believe USA is so bad all of a sudden. Itās just mind bending, itās hard to grasp how is it possible considering the statistics and strongest economy. I donāt think I will ever fully understand it.
One country instead of USA then for the āgrass is always greenerā fantasy I was kinda hoping to get into was New Zealand
China is literally right behind the US in āstrong economyā stats and some expect them to surpass itā¦ And that means jack and shit, because living in China fucking sucks, especially if you are under 30.
A strong economy means little if all that wealth is being used toā¦
ā¦ Uh. Kill people mostly.
Whereas the peopleās lives have been getting steadily worse since 1980.
You know the Simpsons? Itās just a cartoon, right? It was originally a parody of eighties-nineties America.
The Simpsons as they were written in the late eighties were meant to be a lower-class family. They still owned their own house (a large, two story suburban property at that!), their own car, and all on the income of just the man of the house. They were āpoorā by eighties standards because Bart didnāt always get all the newest and shiniest toys and they didnāt travel abroad every year.
The Simpsonsā economic situation hasnāt changed in the forty-ish years the show has existed for. But nowadays their lifestyle is considered insanely wealthy. There isnāt a single family in the US left that has their own home and car on the income of 1(one) man with a high school education, working for wages with no generational wealth, side hustles, or passive income. There just isnāt.
The fiction of the show has to make all sorts of excuses for that. It acts as an accidentally poignant time-capsule and depiction of how much the US of A has degenerated in the past 40 years. And the sad part is most of yāall seem to be cheering for this, or at least, resigned to the idea you canāt do shit about it ā Like ā This happened in America, these guys were Americans. Your ancestors took care of each other, in the face of authoritarian power, and often on the penalty of death. This is something you all seem to have forgotten.
Mind you, life has been getting steadily shittier since 1980 in ā The entire first world really. Neoliberalism has done a number and a half on society. Reagan and Thatcher are the reason we all hope hell is real so they can go there. The living standards your generation has are shite compared to what your (grand)parents knew.
This is not the case here in the Third Worldā¦ But thatās mostly because of how hard it sucked to live here in the sixties and seventies. Yeah, a messy society being eroded by cruel āausterityā measures is gonna be a dream come true when you are literally coming straight out of a military dictatorship that drained the countryās coffers and killed god knows how many people in the most cruel ways imaginable (thanks for that, by the way, US. Never would have happened without Operation Condor :3).
At least I can say I have like. A vote. And human rights after a fashion. And some hope that my life might maybe possibly not completely suck. All things with my parents didnāt have until they wereā¦ Literally in their mid thirties (which Iām close to but not quite at).
Excuse me, what? I know people living in poverty who can barely afford to keep a roof over their heads and donāt have heat/AC. I know people who cannot afford their nececary medications and are forced to go without or take out another credit card. I know people who were forced to start working at 14 in order to help their family survive. Not to mention the high rates of homelessness all over the country. You sound like you come from very privileged surroundings if you have not encountered this.
Additionally, a lot of actual third world countries actually try take care of their people. Itās far from perfect, in fact it kinda sucks. BUT. It is still miles better than the US that sees ābeing poorā as a moral failing that needs to be punished.
Thatās what people thought during the so-called Roaring Twentyās before the Great Depression and World War 2 happened.
History repeats itself. People enjoy the highs; rest on their laurels; become too greedy and decadent; wealth inequality grows; the masses become pushed to extreme poverty; a demagogue comes claiming to save them; civil unrest happens; conflict happens; people learn and tell themselves never again; new wealth is generated; people become greedy again; wealth inequality happens again; demagogues reappear-- and the cycle continues. We have seen this happen from the ancient Chinese empires, the Roman empire, to the French, Germans, and now the USA. Just because it is good for now, it doesnāt mean the bad wonāt ever come even if the tell-tale signs are present. It is the calm before the storm after as they. If the wealth inequality is not stemmed in the USA like what happened under Franklin Roosevelt, the situation that happened in Germany might happen instead there.