Summary

The Pennsylvania attorney representing Luigi Mangione, charged with murdering UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York City, contends Mangione’s arrest in Altoona was unconstitutional.

Officers supposedly approached him without cause and failed to read his Miranda rights at a McDonald’s after a five-day manhunt.

Mangione has pleaded not guilty to murder and related state and federal charges, including potential death penalty eligibility.

Mangione’s New York lawyer likewise cites constitutional violations during arrest, raising the possibility that key evidence could be suppressed.

  • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I never supported any insurance company.

    Uh huh. Elsewhere you’re posting stonetoss comics in support of them.

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      I’ve posted memes but they don’t support health insurance CEOs.

      Look here

      The meme pokes fun at the absurdness of luigi fans being promoted by Tankies while people advocating real reform end up being on the opposite side of the controversy where coincidentally healthcare CEOs are (because they don’t like to be murdered). It doesn’t equate people on either side with the people next to them. That would be stupid. The fact that I have to explain this to you is stupid.

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        people advocating real reform

        Until they get in office and find the no votes so you can make excuses. You’re pulling on the side of the rope you agree with. The side that exploits the dying for money.

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          You don’t need to make a new party for this issue. Universal Healthcare is literally a Core DNC stance. The moment they had supermajority with caucusing IND in 2010 (for only 72 days) they took it to vote and one of the IND betrayed us leaving it at 59 and filibustered by Republicans, causing us to instead get the Medicaid Expansion and CHIP renewals that currently cover 79 Million Americans. Every single Republican voted no. This is a partisan issue.

          Luigi’s defence raised hundreds of thousands of dollars when he was already rich enough to pay his own lawyers, all of that money could have been spent campaigning, or even just funding people’s healthcare directly. People who support Luigi are actively avoiding any solution to the problem that sparked Luigi’s actions.

          You can agree with people on some issues and disagree on others.

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            You don’t need to make a new party for this issue. Universal Healthcare is literally a Core DNC stance.

            One which they find enough no votes for.

            The moment they had supermajority with caucusing IND in 2013 (for only 72 days) they took it to vote and one of the IND betrayed us leaving it at 59 and filibustered by Republicans

            Sorry to interrupt Revisionist History Corner here, but the ACA was passed via reconciliation, which requires only 50 votes in the Senate. Why didn’t they put the public option back in?

            The public option was designed to be jettisoned from day one. It’s why biden broke his promise to revisit it.

            And the guy you’ve designated a scapegoat because he carried out the will of your party? Lieberman? Your party’s VP nominee from 2000? Guess the party doesn’t hate independents when they do the bidding of the industries that own them.

            causing us to instead get the Medicaid Expansion

            *offer void in states democrats don’t give a shit about.

            You’re trying to coast on 15 year old legislation, and will likely do so forever.

            We gave democrats a majority in 2020. They could have done away with the filibuster that you will use as an excuse. Wonder what happened to that filibuster on January 20, since democrats can’t seem to figure out how to use it. But it sure is useful as an excuse for when democrats break their campaign promises.

            Keep pulling on the side of the rope with your allies in the insurance industry, but don’t pretend you’re on the side of anyone else.

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              We actually haven’t even given Democrats 50 in about a decade. After the 111th congress they had 53 and we’ve given them less than that every election since. They had caucusing independents for 50 and a VP tiebreaker just to get majority in 2020, meaning they literally didn’t even outnumber the GOP even with independents on their side. The ACA did NOT pass via Reconciliation. It passed with 60 votes after the concessions and negotiations.

              In fact, from 2011 to 2021 there were congressional rules enacted by republicans against any reconciliation votes on medicaid, medicare, food stamps, farms, etc.

              The fact of the matter is people aren’t supporting the DNC, such as yourself, and that is the reason why we aren’t getting universal healthcare.

              The argument you’re making is exactly the sort of both-sides-bad content that Tankies are placing their bets on and the reason they’re supporting Luigi Mangione content.

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                They had caucusing independents for 50 and a VP tiebreaker just to get majority in 2020, meaning they literally didn’t even outnumber the GOP even with independents on their side.

                They had enough to pass legislation without a single republican vote. Stop splitting hairs.

                The fact of the matter is people aren’t supporting the DNC, such as yourself

                The fact is you support them onlo so long as they DON’T do anything to constrain the insurance industry.

                The argument you’re making is exactly the sort of both-sides-bad content that Tankies

                Yes, everyone to the left of netanyahu is a tankie. Anything to keep you and the insurers on the same side. You just want to keep the same status quo that keeps exploiting people to death with no criticism whatsoever.

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                  Just going to gloss over how I caught you in an outright lie about how the ACA passed and the restrictions on reconciliation?

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                    I was mistaken. Its companion legislation passed via reconciliation.

                    At least the public option died because your vp nominee killed it for you, with the help of Senator Ben Nelson, also a democrat so you can’t pretend that only independents hate patients and want them to go bankrupt and die.

                    But you will anyway. Just like you pretend that Democrats never have a majority because then you don’t have to expect anything from them.