I know it’s probably photoshop but I want to believe I’m living amongst people that see what’s going on.

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      see, there’s actually an argument here.

      nazis are kind of don’t live in material reality. they’re all solipsists. if something real fucks their shit up, they need to create a diagetic reason for it to have happened, that cauterizes the intrusion of material reality into their fantasy world. they are as human as thanos or the red skull. if you would toss a ruined comic book, or rotted DVD, you should feel no guilt about doing the same to a nazi ‘life’, because you are not ending their life as they see it. you don’t even exist to them.

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          genuinely not entirely untrue. they’re unsalvagable, and they wouldn’t want you keeping useless dangerous mentally ill people around, so by their own ethics; they gotta go. really, NOT killing nazis is disrespectful to the nazis.

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    I often feel like we as a society let “everyone is entitled to their opinion” go too far. Like when it’s “I like vanilla and you like chocolate” that’s fine. Let people enjoy their flavor of choice. But when it’s like “I don’t think those foreign people should live” that’s just the same kind of thing at all.

    And closely related, when someone’s like “I just don’t believe in vaccines” we shouldn’t just let that be.

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    It’s probably not Photoshop, I see shit like this all the time on light posts in my city. There’s a really great one near me that breaks down why our police are awful, and asks for nobody to join the department. Pretty important, since the police have been desperately trying to hire for months.

    Also saw one that was just Deny, Defend, Depose, very similar style to this one, but black text on red. I imagine it was a local anarchist’s work.

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      Definitely full of AI artifacts. It could just be bullshit upscaling from a picture on an overpass.

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          Intense over-sharpening of edges that goes beyond just blurring previously large pixels. The bright-to-dark-to-midtone transitions being absolutely fucked is most noticeable around text shadows that go against the sun shadow direction, and is also particularly noticeable in the glare from the reflected headlights in the bottom-right quadrant of the background in addition to the fake content between the real border of the light pole and the second interpolated border of the light pole on both edges. The whole thing screams to me that there was an out-of-focus background that was intentional bokeh that a subsequent clueless AI tried to bring detail back in.

          Edit: if you’re trying to learn how to spot these kinds of artifacts, a recent slap-you-in-the-face example is the “Deep Learning Multi Frame Generation” fraud that NVIDIA is committing. The artifact examples from this article/video make it particularly obvious.

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            That’s a lot of words to show you’re overly-suspicious of AI and will attribute normal phone camera artifacting to it

            Intense over-sharpening of edges that goes beyond just blurring previously large pixels

            Phone cameras just do that now by default, you know. I have to specifically turn my phone’s enhancement features off to not get overly-sharp photos and I’ve had to show multiple people how to do so when they noticed their phones doing it

            most noticeable around text shadows that go against the sun shadow direction

            I can’t find a shadow that goes against sun direction, nor does “text shadows” make any sense

            Nothing in that image looks like something that isn’t way more easily explained by a phone cameras default sharpening filter applying to a picture a punk took after putting their sticker up high on a pole

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    I know this is a wildly unpopular sentiment, but the more I’ve come to understand about how this kind of hate works, the more apparent it’s become that this is exactly what it feeds on.

    I don’t know what will solve the current crisis we’re living through, but the kind of violence this sticker is talking about just radocalizes people and justifies the feelings of persecution that hatred NEEDS in order to sustain itself.

    I’m honestly still trying to figure out what kind of solution at can save us. But I’m pretty confident this isn’t it. I think this just digs the hole deeper, and accelerates the decent into full blown fascism :(

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      People need to be radicalized against Nazis. You need to read up on some history. You don’t have run of the mill “political disagreements” with fascists. As you’ve probably seen, they will do whatever they need to gain power, and when they do, people will die.

      It has been about two months. Let’s see how trans people are doing a year from now if these people continue to escalate this shit unchecked.

      It can happen here. It is already happening here. Fascism can be given no quarter in a free society, or else it will infect it and kill the host.

      Don’t take my word for it. I implore you to read about Germany in the 1930s. Read about how the Nazis gained power (remarkably similar to our current circumstances). Look at who they targeted first (trans people). Look at how they commanded big business and how corporations kowtowed to them.

      Read Ur-Fascism by Umberto Eco (though at this point, we’re past the “Ur-” part, I believe).

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        *sorry for the ridiculously long wall of text, I care a lot about this subject and my mental health is in the gutter so I don’t really have the energy to edit it down


        Please don’t condecend to me just because I don’t agree with you, I’m quite familiar with Nazi history. Presuming my ignorance solely on the grounds that I don’t share your perspective is pretty frustrating and unpleasant to be on the receiving end of. And to be very clear, I was saying violence against hateful people radicalizes more nazis.

        I expect you don’t agree, and that’s okay. Frankly I at some point there will be no other option but violence, but when you listen to people who has left hate groups like white nationalist or neo-nazi organizations, they’ll tell you very explicitly that the experiences that make it easy to stay stuck in their hatred and dragged them into that worldview in the first place are the ones where they can justify their sense of persecution. To be even more clear, I do believe nazis deserve violence or death, but I’m a lot more interested in what gets us out of this mess than I am in what constitutes appropriate punishment.

        This is a long ass video but I feel it’s worth watching if this is a subject you care about. Its an account of a former neo-nazi, and he speaks very candidly about how his experiences receiving (deserved) violence for his hateful views radicalized him and are what perpetuated and sustained his hate. Though he also talks about a lot more than that, and it’s useful to know your enemy whether you see things the same way I do or not. Today he works for a nonprofit that helps support families with deradicalizing violent extremists like neonazis and incels. https://youtu.be/d-g3Z8IWsdU

        Violence and persecution is what hate feeds on. The more you allow them to feel like victims the more people they will draw in, and I honestly don’t know what the best approach is, I think the issue needs a lot of research, that we will probably never get, or at least won’t have available in trying to fix the fucked up hole America is slipping into, and that the rest of the world seems to be drifting towards along with it.

        Maybe violently culling anyone who advocates hate really is the only way to stop the proliferation of that hate one it reaches a critical mass. And if that’s the case, what amount of a population is that critical mass?

        I’m well aware of how the Nazis came to power. What I’m saying is I worry violence in response to that process may just pour accelerant on that growing fire.

        And yes, I know they targeted trans people, though it seems strange to me to call out only trans people as where it started? Do you have sources where I could read more about that? Or do you just mean trans folks were amoung the wide range of minorities that were initially targeted, and are mentioning them because they’re one of the main minority scapegoats of modern fascism? And for context, I’m gender queer. I’m amab, take estrogen, have boobs, and I sit down to pee. Nazis would kill me for existing.

        I appreciate the book recommendation, I haven’t read it. I appreciate that you care and want to see us survive this whole mess. I hope it’s clear that I do also.