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Letting Prigozhin live is already turning out to be a mistake.
well , it would have been a disaster for Russia if they would have spilled their own blood in Rostov -on don. It ended gracefully and without much casualties , depicts Putin’s patience on difficult situations .
Seems like that vacation to Belarus might get cut short
To be fair, the video was posted before 24th June.
Prigozhin is not reliable. He seems to have a personal feud with Shoigu, and to feel embittered that Shoigu would never directly respond to him or engage with him on a personal level. Hence the sort of wild, outlandish claims he’s been making for the past few months: Syria was only won because of Wagner, the Ukrainian counteroffensive has been wildly successful (not even western media claims this), etc. It’s all meant to portray the Russian MOD and Shoigu in a bad light, and to make Wagner look like the only competent part of the Russian army. It may also be done to exaggerate his own role, since there are claims that Wagner itself was founded by Russian military intelligence, and that it has always ultimately answered to Russian high command, not Prigozhin – though the facade, if it is one, of being a PMC neccesitated a somewhat vague chain of command, and that is what enabled Prigozhin to pull off his abortive “coup.”
My understanding is that these same statements, when made by Prigozhin at the beginning of the mutiny, actually cost him a lot of support within Russia – it made him into the proverbial Benedict Arnold, that is, a former war hero defecting to the enemy for personal gain.
I think we all know Russia does not care about fascism in Ukraine. Otherwise this shit would’ve happened ages ago (like, right after Euromaiden). Its a capitalist war for capitalist reasons.
It’s a strategic war for strategic reasons. If Russia was feudalist or socialist it would still have done this because it was required by the strategic landscape.
Russia jailed their own nazis and few Russian nazis fled to ukraine during maidan. I doubt what Russia could have done at that point. It took crimea back on popular mandate and I think overall they did the right thing. They applied for minsk accords. It’s upto those bastards of Ukraine and Europe who failed to comply with it.
I mean, fascism is explicitly anti-Russian. Russia cares very deeply about fascism, even if the modern state has strong reactionary tendencies in other ways.
Nazism is explicitly anti-slav. Fascism is just as ghoulish, eugenicist, and horrific, but on paper it isn’t inherently genocidal against Slavs and Jews as Nazism is.
Is it? I feel like fascism is adaptable to basically any society if given the right conditions. Not to say Russia is fascist (it isn’t) but to say its anti Russian is odd. Especially when again, if they do truely care so much the, why now and not when the coup first happened?
I’m sure there are plenty of people in the government who don’t particularly care, but the average Russian almost certainly does, especially when the fascists are killing Russian-speaking civilians; the KPRF was a very prominent voice for intervening to protect the DPR and LPR
Since when do the opinions of regular people decide government policy under capitalism? Maybe I’m just used to the US where the average citizen has zero voice but is that not the same across all capitalist countries?
When you said “Russia does not care about fascism in Ukraine”, I didn’t interpret that as “Russian capitalists and the people in the Russian leadership do not care about fascism in Ukraine”; if that’s what you meant, yeah, I’d assume most of them don’t, or they would have intervened earlier (unless there was some really good reason to keep waiting while Ukraine broke all agreements). This war isn’t about the fact that Ukraine is fascist, it’s about the threat it poses to Russia as a NATO proxy.
That being said, public opinion does matter to some extent – particularly if it manifests in some organized action (or even if the ruling party believes that it may happen) – and the Russian communist party (the second largest party after United Russia) reflects that view. Most importantly, regardless of the personal intentions of Russian capitalists and their representatives in the government, Russia is acting as a force against imperialism by fighting NATO, which is why many anti-imperialist countries are on Russia’s side
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