For the longest time (relatively speaking), I would do full stack Javascript (like the meme). But I have to frequently tie into AD/LDAP and the only decent NodeJS library for LDAP is no longer maintained because the community was shitty to the dev. Now I’ve had to venture out into Go (I can’t stand working in Python).
Let this be a reminder to be nice to the developers who are giving you their hard work for free.
For me, it’s the rigid and wonky virtual environments. I get why they’re useful and necessary, but they’re awkward to use. Like, Node just works from the working directory with no fuss and python has to be all source {venv}/bin/activate and lord help you if you need to move it.
Plus, I have never liked that the spacing is load-bearing.
uv mostly gets rid of the “venv activation” thing (mostly bc you can still use it if you really want, but you don’t need to), you can do uv run main.py and it’ll just work, no need to even install packages explicitly, it’ll also do that for you and make sure your uv.lock is in sync with your environment.
it’s the most hassle-free experience I’ve had with python, by a long shot.
Sounds like at least a minor improvement. Can those me moved and still work? Like, if I move the project folder, do I have to reinitialize it and download all the packages again?
ah, it’s a massive improvement. Everything is in your project dir, so you can move it around. But uv is the fastest package manager, so reinstalling most things doesn’t take time; with the exception of dependencies that need to compile code in different langs.
Wow, it’s rare that I encounter a tech spat where I can so thoroughly empathize with both parties simultaneously. Thank you for sharing that link, I’d never heard of node-ldap nor it’s history.
FYI: What the troll is describing is not required all. I don’t know what they’re on about, but I’ve used ldap-js in many projects without having to do any of that.
For the longest time (relatively speaking), I would do full stack Javascript (like the meme). But I have to frequently tie into AD/LDAP and the only decent NodeJS library for LDAP is no longer maintained because the community was shitty to the dev. Now I’ve had to venture out into Go (I can’t stand working in Python).
Let this be a reminder to be nice to the developers who are giving you their hard work for free.
whoa, that email is wild, wtf
it’s not even just a shitpost troll you can shrug off, what’s wrong with that person
From someone just learning Python, what’s wrong with Python?
Depending on your use case, it can be fantastic.
There’s good reasons why it is the world’s most popular programming language (by a wide margin).
You are not, generally, going to be using it to write kernels or device drivers, though.
For me, it’s the rigid and wonky virtual environments. I get why they’re useful and necessary, but they’re awkward to use. Like, Node just works from the working directory with no fuss and python has to be all
source {venv}/bin/activateand lord help you if you need to move it.Plus, I have never liked that the spacing is load-bearing.
uvmostly gets rid of the “venv activation” thing (mostly bc you can still use it if you really want, but you don’t need to), you can douv run main.pyand it’ll just work, no need to even install packages explicitly, it’ll also do that for you and make sure youruv.lockis in sync with your environment.it’s the most hassle-free experience I’ve had with python, by a long shot.
Sounds like at least a minor improvement. Can those me moved and still work? Like, if I move the project folder, do I have to reinitialize it and download all the packages again?
you can always keep the venv dir in the project dir, even without uv. that’s what I do most of the times
ah, it’s a massive improvement. Everything is in your project dir, so you can move it around. But uv is the fastest package manager, so reinstalling most things doesn’t take time; with the exception of dependencies that need to compile code in different langs.
Python is extremely high level and slow. Great for scripting and prototyping but you really shouldn’t build any infrastructure off of it.
It also has dynamic variable typing, which depending on your use case (see above), can either be nice or a headache
Wow, it’s rare that I encounter a tech spat where I can so thoroughly empathize with both parties simultaneously. Thank you for sharing that link, I’d never heard of node-ldap nor it’s history.
You’re empathizing with the troll, too? 👀
FYI: What the troll is describing is not required all. I don’t know what they’re on about, but I’ve used ldap-js in many projects without having to do any of that.