I didn’t think I’d sit and watch this whole thing but it is a very interesting conversation. Near the end the author says something like “I know people I’m the industry who work in these labs who act like they’ve seen a ghost. They come home from work and struggle with the work they do and ask me what they should do. I tell them they should quit then, and then they stop asking me for advice.”
I do wonder at times if we would even believe a whistleblower should one come to light, telling us about the kind of things they do behind closed doors. We only get to see the marketable end product. The one no one can figure out how it does what it does exactly. We don’t get to see the things on the cutting room floor.
Also, its true. These models are more accurately described as grown not built. Which in a way is a strange thing to consider. Because we understand what it means to build something and to grow something. You can grow something with out understanding how it grows. You cant build something without understanding how you built it.
And when you are trying to control how things grow you sometime get things you didn’t intend to get, even if you got the things you did intend to get.
I, personally, stating that it is mystical and inscrutable but I am asserting that we need to be a lot better at computers in order to simulate the behavior of an organism accurately. By and large i am in agreement with you.
I think the disconnect is where you drive the argument: I my original comment did not mystify the human experience. I was saying that the physical elements of feeling that are tied back to the other (just to wrap up what we both have been saying) “systems of conciseness” are in my view just as important to mathematically model in a computer program in order for a machine to really achieve what we view as intelligence not in just ourselves but in other organisms.
I think i take such a hard stance not only bc CS as a field isn’t really dedicated to exploring this aspect of AI but also because part of me enjoys the spiritual and mysterious element of being “alive”