• RBWells@lemmy.world
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    I have been seeing a lot of information on microdosing the GLP 1 drugs, apparently like other diabetes drugs they have a positive effect on more than weight. In the doses used for weight loss there are more side effects, I wonder if there was more effort to find the minimum effective dose could they be used for maintenance ongoing?

    The COST of those drugs is prohibitive for most people though, they are so expensive. The side effect on budget seems so extreme.

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      Just wanted to say: first off, congrats on making all the effort. Seriously. Even if the results aren’t quite what you want effort is going to be the make or break for your goals.

      I can’t recommend weightlifting enough, which may seem counterintuitive since it builds muscle and you’re trying to lose weight.

      The thing is that muscle is lean, and a pound of muscle is going to look a lot different on your body than a pound of fat. Your body also needs to use more energy to maintain it - having more muscle means you have a higher BMR, so as long as you’re lifting weights you can eat more without looking fatter.

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      You’ve got the units wrong on your Ozempic doses. It’s mg, not ml, so you’re on the 2mg weekly dose which is the max dose (Ozempic Inj 8mg/3ml). You’d be overdosing if it was 2ml

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          Don’t need to be a medical doctor. It’s just really important to know what medications you’re on and at what dose. If you had a medical emergency and needed to tell medics what you’re currently using, you’d have given them bad information.

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      Thanks for sharing and congratulations.

      If you’re still hungry, it means your dosage is still a little low. You’re on Metformin too right?

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          I think if you limit your thoughts like that, you’re kinda limiting the scope of your success. Your dosage is tiny and so you’re yet to see just how much of an opportunity these drugs can provide. Once the hunger pangs are managed, you’ll have the ability to be in the driving seat and everything will change.

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    There is a place for these weight loss drugs. You just need to take a look at some of the chronic illness support groups. For instance Hashimoto’s and PCOS. Many people with these conditions cannot lose weight despite eating well and exercising. Some of these drugs also reduce inflammation in the body.

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      The place for weight loss drugs is in the hands of anyone that needs them. The benefits to society are wider than just the individual. You can tackle things like A&E waiting times. Do we need support systems in place too, absolutely, but if someone needs help, give them.

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    Maybe these drugs should be viewed as a maintenance drug? More research will result in drugs with less side-effects.

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    You’ll gain weight again, usually more than you lost.

    Ozempic is basically opioid crisis 2.0.

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      Essentially yes. As I’ve said in other posts about these drugs, they require a huge amount of dedication and willingness to grapple with your eating habits in a sustainable long term way; which if you can do, you don’t need the shots. These have a use, but they’re essentially a crash/fad diet in shot form with bonus side effects.

      That said, they’re nowhere near as destructive as oxi but are useless to the majority of people who will pay for it.

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        Just like getting off other addictive stuff like drugs, tobacco, and alcohol, just that the addiction works through other methods.

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        I’ve had several friends and family members take the jabs. They’ve all kept the weight off after coming off the jabs but they all had to make lifestyle changes.

        Which isn’t a surprise. Their lifestyle before the jabs was the reason they needed the jabs. Carry on as you were before and the weight is guaranteed to come back.

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          Which is why I find comments like

          Ozempic is basically opioid crisis 2.0.

          Perplexing. Weight loss jobs are supposed to aid you, not carry you. Even in the article, one of the women said she came off the jabs and started binge eating again and I’m like, “WTF, why are you coming off the drug then?” Society keeps stoking up fear regarding these drugs instead of accepting them as a societal win. I liked what the article said about providing support, but I also think effort needs to go into, rather than just stopping, step people down and ween them off so the change feels seamless.

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        That’s what the company behind Ozempic tells people.

        In reality it’s more like telling people “just stop taking coke/meth/heroin”.

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          I know people that bariatric treatment like a miracle drug and refuse to adjust, consciously or subconsciously, and I know people that have changed their whole lifestyle and have subsequently enjoyed the lasting success it has brung. No one is saying anything is easy, but you absolutely have to try. Opportunities are there to be taken.

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        If these people found lifestyle changes easy, they wouldn’t be on the weight loss meds.

        They sound like a gastric band you subscribe to. The capitalist solution to being fat.

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          Oh fuck off. So now we’re gonna gatekeep health and fitness, because you think it’s too easy. Absolutely fuck off!