For those not in the know:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room

Very first words:

The Chinese room argument holds that a computer executing a program cannot have a mind, understanding, or consciousness,[a] regardless of how intelligently or human-like the program may make the computer behave.

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  • Grimy@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    You just have to type “what is a” before that and it pops up. I don’t think the llm is choosing not to show us what it is. If it actually did, it wouldn’t be as much of a Chinese room as we think, although I guess it could emulate deception just as well as anything else (as in the blackmail thing from a while back).

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        24 days ago

        Which is why its actually bullshit to call any of it AI because a fancy pattern recognition algorithm with a search index behind it doesnt mean Artificial intelligence.

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          2 days ago

          As far as I can tell, the term AI has been applied to a host of machine learning models. The more advanced the machines get, the more they’re marketed as even more artificially intelligent and thus the rest is no longer real artificial intelligence. I’ve heard the word used for decision tree learning, perceptrons, CNNs, facial recognition using linear algebra… even the fairly unintelligent “AI” of computer games has that title.

          I think the difficulty is to pin down a specific definition of AI that doesn’t move its goalposts along with the state of technology.

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          24 days ago

          Yup, I either call them LLMs or “AI” Marketing departments have utterly embraced it because everyone, myself included, thinks of science fiction AI and they are so not.

          A fun thing I’ve noticed is that for image gen ones, they threw in so much gundam and warhammer 40k art that getting things outside of those when you ask for a “mech” is surprisingly difficult.

          Its really surprising that Games Workshop hasnt done anything on that.

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    24 days ago

    As long as you accept that the understanding is embedded in the software, not in the computer.

    What a useless conclusion to take from a really insightful argument. Also, there’s nothing forcing AI to resemble the Chinese room, it’s a computer running it, not a look-up machine.