Vanilla Ice

Bad@jlai.lu · 3 months ago

Vanilla Ice

mfed1122 · 3 months ago

Yes, the media definitely does under report minority deaths. But that still just goes to show that the people being more outraged about these is probably just because people are more aware of it and not because they’re racist and only care about white people.

I generally like your comics my dude, and I’m not trying to be a hater or anything. I also understand not every comic will hit the mark for every reader. But for me this one misses the mark. The majority of people who only care about white lives are on the right, they’re not the people protesting ICE. I think it does more harm than good to stoke a narrative where people who are getting involved are told that they’re actually subconsciously racist. Especially when, as you said, they are likely just victims of media bias instead.

Bad@jlai.lu · 3 months ago

This one’s also about a man who was murdered by the police in France a week ago, died in custody “from a heart attack” despite video evidence of cops beating him up while handcuffed on the ground. Nothing happened, people moved on already.

Can you guess why?

I don’t believe there’s a bad time to be pointing out racial bias. The movement is barely getting started, having a proper sense of scale by getting the full picture of ICE’s death toll only makes it more unbearable, that should make the movement more motivated, not less.

mfed1122 · 3 months ago

I feel ya. I don’t 100% agree, but it’s a pretty minor difference in the scheme of what matters and I do see where you’re coming from regardless. It’s hard to definitively say whose strategy is the right one for this context, so I won’t nitpick over it. Keep on keeping on

Bad@jlai.lu · edit-2 3 months ago

My fear is that this movement needs to be about completely dismantling the rot that is ICE, ending the organization that has been murdering people for a decade now, finding the thousands of people ICE claims they “lost” in their system whose own families and lawyers can’t find, closing the concentration camps the country is now riddled with, etc.

If it turns into a “justice for Good and Pretti” type movement, then it will become toothless and be satisfied with a few small victories. Which would be sad, since Good and Pretti were radical activists fighting the good fight, their death must be an incentive to continue taking the fight to ICE, not to turn it into a defensive war.

I don’t believe you’re fully wrong either, I’m willing to take your criticism at face value, but it’s important that whatever happens, the core issues are brought to light on a regular basis so that people don’t forget about them - many aren’t even aware of them in the first place. Perhaps my way of doing it isn’t the right one, but regardless I’m hoping enough people do it in their own way on a regular basis until “abolish ICE” becomes synonymous with “stop murdering migrants & free them from the camps”.

Over on Reddit I’ve already seen a few people surprised by the true scale of ICE, which has helped open some productive conversations about the meaning of abolishing ICE, so surely I’m doing *something* right. Although as a satirist with an edgy side, I’m aware I’m prone to taking things too far every now and then :)