- cross-posted to:
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- cross-posted to:
- comicstrips@lemmy.world
- smugideologyman@lemmy.dbzer0.com
[a character looks sad in front of a sad city, under the sunset]
Things aren’t looking great…
It sucks when the state kills people
Wish we could do something about it
[the character is now in front of their TV, showing ICE agents surrounding a bleeding corpse on the floor]
Wait… this time they killed WHITE people
This means it could happen to me too?!
[an angry crowd is demonstrating, holding various signs such as…]
THIS TIME YOU’VE GONE TOO FAR
I DRAW THE LINE HERE
TOLERATE NO MORE
2025-31-12, Keith Porter, shot and killed by ICE agents
2025-09-12, Silverio Villegas González, shot and killed by ICE agents
2025-07-28, Jaime Alanis Garcia, shot and killed by ICE agents
27 shootings by ICE in 2025,
8 of which were lethal
31 deaths in ICE custody in 2025
11 deaths in ICE custody in 2024
7 deaths in ICE custody in 2023
3 deaths in ICE custody in 2022
5 deaths in ICE custody in 2021
18 deaths in ICE custody in 2020
9 deaths in ICE custody in 2019
9 deaths in ICE custody in 2028
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I hate to say it but if thats what it takes, I’m not going to backtrack to finger-wag at white people. We can circle back way later but shit like this doesn’t improve anything
Plenty of already angry white folks out in the streets protesting and helping their community in Minneapolis and beyond.
And yes, there is also room for more to join
I mean, this also sort of neglects the role of the gruesome videos that make the situation a lot more plain to literally see. Afaik there are not videos from multiple angles of these other shootings. Seems pointlessly pessimistic to assume the worst behind people’s reasons for being upset over it, divisive at worst.
Or maybe the media plays a role by underreporting minority deaths.
Yes, the media definitely does under report minority deaths. But that still just goes to show that the people being more outraged about these is probably just because people are more aware of it and not because they’re racist and only care about white people.
I generally like your comics my dude, and I’m not trying to be a hater or anything. I also understand not every comic will hit the mark for every reader. But for me this one misses the mark. The majority of people who only care about white lives are on the right, they’re not the people protesting ICE. I think it does more harm than good to stoke a narrative where people who are getting involved are told that they’re actually subconsciously racist. Especially when, as you said, they are likely just victims of media bias instead.
This one’s also about a man who was murdered by the police in France a week ago, died in custody “from a heart attack” despite video evidence of cops beating him up while handcuffed on the ground. Nothing happened, people moved on already.
Can you guess why?
I don’t believe there’s a bad time to be pointing out racial bias. The movement is barely getting started, having a proper sense of scale by getting the full picture of ICE’s death toll only makes it more unbearable, that should make the movement more motivated, not less.
I feel ya. I don’t 100% agree, but it’s a pretty minor difference in the scheme of what matters and I do see where you’re coming from regardless. It’s hard to definitively say whose strategy is the right one for this context, so I won’t nitpick over it. Keep on keeping on
My fear is that this movement needs to be about completely dismantling the rot that is ICE, ending the organization that has been murdering people for a decade now, finding the thousands of people ICE claims they “lost” in their system whose own families and lawyers can’t find, closing the concentration camps the country is now riddled with, etc.
If it turns into a “justice for Good and Pretti” type movement, then it will become toothless and be satisfied with a few small victories. Which would be sad, since Good and Pretti were radical activists fighting the good fight, their death must be an incentive to continue taking the fight to ICE, not to turn it into a defensive war.
I don’t believe you’re fully wrong either, I’m willing to take your criticism at face value, but it’s important that whatever happens, the core issues are brought to light on a regular basis so that people don’t forget about them - many aren’t even aware of them in the first place. Perhaps my way of doing it isn’t the right one, but regardless I’m hoping enough people do it in their own way on a regular basis until “abolish ICE” becomes synonymous with “stop murdering migrants & free them from the camps”.
Over on Reddit I’ve already seen a few people surprised by the true scale of ICE, which has helped open some productive conversations about the meaning of abolishing ICE, so surely I’m doing *something* right. Although as a satirist with an edgy side, I’m aware I’m prone to taking things too far every now and then :)
Yup. Two good people. The more ASS err ICE tries to make terrorist out of their victims, the more they fail. They are terrible people and to a terrible person someone who is living their best life, a mother and a nurse who posses empathy are some of the most evil people they can imagine. How dare they care about others?
After all your basic proud boi ICE agent would use his family as a human shield shield.
More than a mother and a nurse, those were two people who were on the frontlines against ICE. They’re role models.
Glad others are following. Sad that’s what it took to make them follow.
Sure. I didn’t imply they were not more. I implied they were in the service of life. Something the people who murdered them are not.
Wasn’t implying anything about your comment, was just adding to it, no worries.
Okay, I just would not want anyone to get the impression that by not listing every way in which they were not like their murderers I somehow thought they were less deserving in having a life.
