• Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    20 hours ago

    I make this same argument for why we should be taking away their phones in high school. If they aren’t responsible deal with that, just like it happens in a work place.

    They didn’t even try. Make a social pressure thing. Giving everyone extra work when a classmate is caught is far more effective than teaching them to be sneakier.

  • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    23 hours ago

    my own opinion based on my own experiences: we should push each other to build up distress tolerance while listening to people and doing things in a graduated manner.

    In general, you have an easier time in life the higher you can get your set point for being uncomfortable. However where that is starting from, what effects it, how sensitive you are, and how resilient you are varies person to person.

    It’s extremely limiting and it does make you difficult to be around even when people are trying to accommodate you if you can’t tolerate “normal” or accepted levels of stimulation or specific stimuli. Like if you can’t idk tolerate background noise at shitty restaurants without acoustic baffling like carpets and curtains (something I have a lot of difficulty with) the reality is that you’re either going to be excluded from a lot of things or have a miserable time and exclude yourself.

    But eating cement on everything is self destructive, and exposure and acclimatisation is about gradual increments to keep the basal amount of distress below the reenforcement spiral.

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      1 day ago

      i can tell you from experience that autism does not care a lot about exposure. if you’re overstimulated you’re overstimulated. and also it’s often much worse as a kid/teen. maybe try exposure therapy again when they’re a more mellow adult. when they’ve learned about their own condition and can logic their way into a solution, instead of misery being forced on them by people who don’t understand

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        21 hours ago

        No, no, no – if we’ve learned anything from ABA by now, it’s that it fully and completely works! Why? Because it makes sense to how allistics experience the world. How else are we supposed to measure something not intended for allistic people?

    • Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online
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      23 hours ago

      Translation: being forced to suffer quietly and pretend it’s okay makes it harder to actually ask for help when you need it, and that’s super convenient for people around you so you should do that.

      (The one moderated comment in the OP said the same thing btw)

    • Scratch@sh.itjust.works
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      1 day ago

      If you stab yourself with a small knife, in a few weeks you will be able to stab yourself with a larger knife. Continue doing this and you will become immune to being stabbed.

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        1 day ago

        True, learning how to tolerate noise on planet earth is a silly skill

        We should have kids stab themselves with small knives until they can do it with bigger ones

      • Blaster M@lemmy.world
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        1 day ago

        At least, you’ll be used to the pain of the stabbing. Health problems aside from being stabbed…