• The customers and their own products??? like, the fucking dipshits rely on these apps and the developers of them to be willing participants in the Apple ecosystem, especially to be willing participants in the native Apple ecosystem.

      Native apps or what keeps People tied to Apple products, and if app developers feel that investment is under threat they will move to cross platform tools, or even the web. Both of those surrender far too much control for apple’s liking.

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        You can only use safari on ios which again locks developers into the apple ecosystem. It doesn’t even work properly on iPhones with less RAM and constantly refreshes Web pages making the experience unusable. I’ll never buy an iPhone again.

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          My brother swears by those bloody phones. No clue why. Rest of my family calls Apple “Crapple”. Always knew why my dad does, he’s very technical and understands the reasons they suck. My mum, though, I assumed just trusted his judgment… until I recently finally got the whole story. When they were living together in their first student flat, they had an Apple computer they shared for writing their papers. Mum once lost days of work on a paper when the computer crashed on her - she’d saved it recently, but the system crash corrupted the file. She’s hated “Crapple” ever since. (That woman… when a piece of technology screws her over badly enough, she holds the grudge forever. I aspire to someday be as good at holding anger and using it productively/to avoid poor choices and being burned twice as she is.)

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    That’s telling Patreon Creators, not even patreon itself? How the fuck does that work?

    Either they force all their creators to switch jf they are taking a subscription through iOS. Or they get delisted? Not even a fake excuse like “blender titties”. Just delisted from lack of paying a protection fee.

    • yeah usually that’s exactly what happens.

      the apps that get tied into iOS platform fees just encourage people to go through the website. that, and often the pricing will be higher when offered through the iOS app to account for the platform fees.

      for example, remember watching a Dan and Phil video recently where they were promoting some VPN service in an ad segment, and part of the ad was them encouraging people to sign up by the website rather than the app for a cheaper rate lol.

      Im dont quite know if apple’s able to punish those kinds of tactics? Sure they can just take the apps down over some terms of service clause, the capitalists seeking rent through the revenue streams of other capitalists is usually frowned upon, and one of the rare cases where the state is willing to intervene as a mediator.

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    So patreon tells their big money makers like chapo to crack down on piracy to make sure that patreon’s income streams stay stable just in time for Apple to decide to take their feudal cut. What curious timing

    • more like people will just access patreon by the web, and picture on me just pull that app from Apple entirely. that, or they’ll just heavily push users into making purchases outside of apple’s watchful gaze lol.

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        I think the app already encourages you to pay via the site instead of in-app which a few other apps do as well but maybe not as high profile as Patreon. Apple is probably going to delist the app altogether which is fine because it sucks anyway.