Shame of you for thinking other companies not using child slaves.
Wait till they hear about chocolate
I switched to Tony’s chocolate years ago, I was heartbroken to hear even that doesn’t guarantee that chocolate is free from slave labour 😔
It’s literally impossible to avoid slave labor if you eat chocolate.
Tony at least tries to make things better where they can. Which is the most you can really ask for given the current situation.
It’s goanna take a lot of make things better where you can before we can even hope to see the start of actual permanent change.
Not literally impossible, just hard for people to do if they don’t run the farms themselves.
On that note, fun reminder that Nestle isn’t even the worst offender in the chocolate slavery business.
I think i read or heard once that it’s almost impossible to make that guarantee.
Fair trade, single origin chocolate. It will often say the farm it’s from on the packaging and everything. It’s often much more expensive, of course, but it also tastes much better :).
Fuck. I just bought some yesterday.
It’s mostly because it’s almost impossible to make that guarantee (honestly, at least), even if you’re really actively trying to vet your supply chain. There just isn’t much child-labor-free cocoa production in the world period, and there’s a lot of structural forces on the ground keeping it that way.
They probably come from the same factory even, just having a popular brand means more profit margins/middlemen
Fun fact: as a child my family was so dirt poor that i preferred to work instead to go to school…
Also I hated school, hated my class, hated my teacher and to this day I hate my mom for the sentence “school is the best time of your life you will miss it as an adult”
I don’t know how common thrift shops are where you live but they are a pretty good deal… Or an overpriced scam, 50/50
Actually it raise a moral question. Am I indirectly helping finance child labor by buying second hand fast fashion?
No, because the alternative would have been for those clothes to be thrown away. And we still need clothes
And either way, at that point it isn’t your fault. Someone else made the unethical decision
There’s a Goodwill in my area where my wife regularly finds lululemon and patagonia stuff for cheap that looks like it was barely used if at all. Also cashmere sweaters, real fur coats and merino stuff for really cheap.
There’s a salvation army a couple of miles from there that has severely used clothes a lot more expensive (and also salvation army 🤮)
There’s also a “vintage” store that is super expensive and another that it’s more like an exchange so clothes are good but expensive but you can also sell your clothes for credit
Yeah, go for charity shops (except for Salvation Army, I’ve heard they are awful - not sure why, though …)
My take: Pretty much all clothing is outrageously cheap. Temu etc are just doubly so.
We all own pretty crazy amounts of clothing, and don’t even think about how excessive that is because it costs us barely anything.
Yeah, hearing stats about the average amount of times an article of clothing is worn in the west (which is somewhere between 7 and 10 times) is insane to me. I usually wear things until the fabric is too tired and fragile to be patched up, which is typically hundreds of times and many dozens of washes. My favorite pair of trousers has been going strong for definitely more than a thousand days of intense use, including hiking and other sports; they are close to giving up but still not quite there yet.
The mindset of buying clothes (or boots) to wear them less than a hundred times before discarding is just beyond me, and I’m way above the poverty line. From what I hear there are people who never wash some of their clothing categories (e.g. underwear), just throwing them out when they get dirty, and it drives me mad.
Like, some poor person was paid $2 per day or so to saw this in the heat of SE Asian summer, then it was shipped half way across the planet to you, and you throw all this effort away because “it’s out of fashion” or “it has a small hole in it”? Really?
somewhere between 7 and 10 times
Lol, I wear my jeans 7 to 10 times before I wash them…
same pair all week :stinky:
High-quality untreated denim is basically self-cleaning, like high-quality untreated wool as well. I really don’t ever need to wash denim like that, at most spot clean it occasionally. With woolen sweaters, it’s the same deal: spot-clean and hang in fresh air.
Heavily depends on the person and activity. Loose jeans, cold weather and low activity means about a month of use for me. At the same time 2 days in the office in meetings will feel disgusting.
I wear a uniform to work & I’m out of it within 5 minutes of walking in the door when I get home. The jeans are only there for if I have to leave the house, and usually don’t stay on more than an hour or two. Twelve or so hours of wear seems like a normal amount before washing.
The majorty of my pants and shirts are the same since I was 15-17 I’m now in my mid 30s they still are going strong.
Almost all of my clothing that’s fallen apart is stuff I bought after I left high school.
You are implying that other discount companies don’t use the same sources. I’d have to see evidence of that before I bought into your message.
Most cheap clothing is fragile and unethically made. Even more expensive stuff is a risk, but nothing good comes from rock bottom prices
She’s not implying anyone else isn’t using child labor, at all. She’s implying Temu nearly exclusively uses it and supercharges the scale and impact of the problem.
to be honest, aliexpress (and competitors like vevor) beat Amazon on price and quality for the cheap consumer goods that u think about buying locally.
Aye… On ali I can get a cheap cable for like a dollar, not to mention how easy it is to get free shipping there. Meanwhile at my local electronics shop, I’m looking at 6+. Like it’s ridiculous. I can have something flown to me from China for almost an order of magnitude cheaper??? Our economy is very silly.
It makes a bit of sense, virtually every cost associated with flying it from China still exists for the local shop +
- Rent
- Salary
- Paying local taxes
- Advertising
- Theft
Nothing makes cotton softer than mercury and lead.
LOL, as if the known brands are not produced in the exact same factories under the exact same conditions…
If you truly care, and can afford to care, you would only buy locally made clothes so you can see for yourself the working conditions… and assume the raw materials they use did not come from those same factories and conditions
There was a trend during COVID where the big name brand fashion manufactures (GUCCI, Channel, Hermes, etc) were selling directly to Americans on the internet for a much lower price. Point being, a lot of these products come from the same places, get “finished” in Europe or US with a label, and then see a huge markup in price.
I support the children
This is why I have 7 pairs of basketball shorts, 8 tshirts, 2 button-up shirts, 1 pair of jeans, 1 khakis, 8 pair of underwear, 4 pairs of socks, and 2 pair of shoes, one sandals and one black tennis shoes. That’s my entire wardrobe and every christmas I get maybe another shirt or pair of shorts. Laundry once a week and sandals make it easy.
