Collateral damage isn’t terrorism.
They’re blowing up a death star ffs, not a city bus.
They main difference is that terrorists will target only civilians as a way to get a message across… A rebel will target the military and oppressive forces, and regret that civilians were killed on accident.
There will always be extremists, but that doesn’t make it their core policy. And also, most extremism is guerilla from the other side, so false flags.
It’s literally impossible for there not to some faction that goes against the norm, that’s just human nature. Doubly so when it’s a well established and common espionage tactic.
It’s not movie niceness, it’s how real life is so most know to ignore it, since it’s likely the enemies doing it anyways. And if not, how is it proved?
There’s a difference between utilizing and agreeing with extremists, which they aren’t doing, and trying to charge them with war crimes and distancing themselves, which they are doing.
Just because someone on the left shoots someone on the right doesn’t make every left a murderer. This is the logic you’re applying here, and isn’t how life or anything works. You are just wrong here.
There’s a reason you’re using the word terrorist instead of Rebel or Imperial, now isn’t that weird? Why separate them if they aren’t different…?
Wanting to kill all lefts because of the actions of one that goes against the group makes you the bad guy, you understand this very simple concept yeah?
Exactly - we’ve allowed our government(s) to dilute the definition of terrorism through constant misuse. It’s not terrorism to attack military targets, even if the attacker is a stateless actor. Similarly, it is terrorism to attack civilians, even when perpetrated by a government. Terrorism is not simply a catch-all term for unsanctioned violence.
I’m saying that many governments today and throughout history have committed acts of terrorism, including Israel and the US, as well as their opponents.
Ukraine is attacking Russia’s oil infrastructure because it is funding the Russian war machine. They are valid targets, despite being run by civilians. I wish them good hunting.
Yeah, the Rebellion we are shown through its heroes are not terrorists, they are a guerilla army. They don’t want to break the Empire through citizen revolt after sowing mass unrest; they make precision strikes on military infrastructure and assassinate critical Imperial officials.
Skywalker and the rebellion only attacked combatants. Big difference there.
That’s movie niceness. There’s another faction of the rebellion they comes up a few times that has no such qualms.
Also are you really telling me everyone on the death star and whatever planet in the sequels was a combatant
Yeah, they’re on a death star
The cook on an aircraft carrier is also a combatant
Even if you count every single person in a military area as a combatant
What about prisoners?
Collateral damage isn’t terrorism.
They’re blowing up a death star ffs, not a city bus.
They main difference is that terrorists will target only civilians as a way to get a message across… A rebel will target the military and oppressive forces, and regret that civilians were killed on accident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4MVQby0InQ
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He raises fair points but also the contractors would likely know what they were working on this time around (that it was a planet killing weapon)
Even the nice server in the canteen who told Lord Vader he’d need a tray for his penne arrabbiata because the plate was hot?
Vader drops the plate because it’s too hot
“NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO”
“You’ll need a tray…”
“It’s a tra…y”
There will always be extremists, but that doesn’t make it their core policy. And also, most extremism is guerilla from the other side, so false flags.
It’s literally impossible for there not to some faction that goes against the norm, that’s just human nature. Doubly so when it’s a well established and common espionage tactic.
It’s not movie niceness, it’s how real life is so most know to ignore it, since it’s likely the enemies doing it anyways. And if not, how is it proved?
So so you apply the same logic to real life “terrorists”?
That’s how things works, yes.
There’s a difference between utilizing and agreeing with extremists, which they aren’t doing, and trying to charge them with war crimes and distancing themselves, which they are doing.
Just because someone on the left shoots someone on the right doesn’t make every left a murderer. This is the logic you’re applying here, and isn’t how life or anything works. You are just wrong here.
There’s a reason you’re using the word terrorist instead of Rebel or Imperial, now isn’t that weird? Why separate them if they aren’t different…?
Wanting to kill all lefts because of the actions of one that goes against the group makes you the bad guy, you understand this very simple concept yeah?
I don’t know who you’re arguing against, but it ain’t me
So you say there was no independent contractors building Death Star in Return of the Jedi ?
They knew what they were signing up for.
Did they tho? Empire’s propaganda has near endless resources and reach.
If you work on a military installation during a war, you shouldn’t be surprised to find yourself in the middle of an attack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4MVQby0InQ
Exactly - we’ve allowed our government(s) to dilute the definition of terrorism through constant misuse. It’s not terrorism to attack military targets, even if the attacker is a stateless actor. Similarly, it is terrorism to attack civilians, even when perpetrated by a government. Terrorism is not simply a catch-all term for unsanctioned violence.
So you’re saying the state of Israel is terrorists?
I’m saying that many governments today and throughout history have committed acts of terrorism, including Israel and the US, as well as their opponents.
Are you saying they aren’t?
No 😂
I am.
The people rebuilding the Death Star weren’t combatants.
Also, didn’t Stellan Skarsgard do some morally questionable shit in Andor?
WTF? Of course they are.
Anyone working on a military base during a war is a combatant. They are contributing directly to the war effort.
In a society committed to total war, that argument can be used against civilians.
Ukraine is attacking Russia’s oil infrastructure because it is funding the Russian war machine. They are valid targets, despite being run by civilians. I wish them good hunting.
Yeah, the Rebellion we are shown through its heroes are not terrorists, they are a guerilla army. They don’t want to break the Empire through citizen revolt after sowing mass unrest; they make precision strikes on military infrastructure and assassinate critical Imperial officials.
But there must’ve been a death star canteen, yeah? There must’ve been a cafeteria downstairs.
There are chefs and janitors on aircraft carriers.
I want the penne all’arrabbiata.
You’ll need a tray
This one’s wet…
Saw Gererra would like a word.
The extremist that they want nothing to do with…? That’s helping their case by bringing them up.
When the Rebels establish themselves in planets like Hoth or in the moon of Endor, do you think they don’t subjugate the locals?
There was nothing of the kind in the movies, so that’s just speculation on your part.