he pleaded not guilty. and his lawyer said this is “an attack on america”.
'cause he had boxes of papers he wasn’t supposed to have, that this is an attack on america? yeah, okay 🙄
This is gonna be wild… the feds hardly ever lose.
With that, I’m very curious to see the fallout should he be convicted.
i’m a little worried some of his cultists may find their way onto the jury and block a conviction
All it takes is one. They’ll refuse to consider anything other than not guilty.
the rest of the jury can ask the judge to remove one who is not deliberating in good faith
That’s reassuring.
Oh man they’re probably all having wet dreams over being “the hero that saves America” or something right now.
they have him on tape showing people documents that he says are classified and that he also knows that he could have declassified them while in office but that he hasn’t.
Yeah he’s so fucked. Caught red handed worse than Nixon.
i am not excited to see the fallout, especially right before i am about to move out of a red state 🙃
Yeah! I chose my words carefully. I’m curious, not necessarily excited!
I’m unfortunately stuck in a red state, so I feel you there.
The whataboutism will be endless as well
Isn’t it already?
*insert always has been meme here*
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glad to help.
here you go 💙
He’s just a walking blizzard of dishonesty.
his lawyer said this is “an attack on america”.
I’m wondering if the lawyers who quit did so because they were too embarrassed to say shit like that in court, despite a certain client’s demands.
the lawyers that quit are lawyers who don’t want to perjure themselves, probably 🙃
I work with many people who are so upset over this, calling it injustice and how horrible that we choose to prosecute Trump when we should instead be jailing Hillary, Harris, and Biden.
I bite my tongue and don’t say anything but it’s so frustrating.
As far as Hillary goes I am not sure why Trump’s DoJ didn’t hand down an indictment if it had evidence that she ultimately committed a crime? I guess the same is true for Hunter.
To my knowledge and I am prefacing this with I could be wrong. In order to charge Hillary for the email incident they would have had to prove either Intent or Gross negligence and when it came down to Hillary I dont think the Doj had anything along the lines of these two factors, whereas trump and they even qoute him, hes talking about how the information is still classified but yada yada this happened, that fills the intent part and then for the gross negligence part they talk about how they found the boxes of files just strewn about everywhere in the club.
Feel free to correct me, this is just my understanding.
oh yeah! thank you for saying that :) trump had the doj under his control and still didn’t have enough evidence to indict her. i would think that would shut up the “jail hillary and joe” crowd, but i guess they have super short term memory
same here. i’m all for treating everyone as equal, but i’m pretty sure nothing new came up after hillary was already investigated and iirc biden was slapped on the wrist for not returning some documents. but hey, you know, one box is the same as rooms full of boxes, apparently
The difference seems to me, as far as I know (please correct me if I have missed something) is that Biden and related parties cooperated with getting the documents returned while Trump hid and tried to erase evidence that he had them. And I believe that some have yet to be found, potentially sold off.
I probably shouldn’t, but I let those people know what I think. If they want to bring it up, they can hear what I have to say about it too.
Excellent. May his orange jumpsuit soon follow.
I’m just sad that federal mugshots aren’t made public.
No mugshot “because the president is recognizable” EDIT: “Trump is easily recognizable” I guess that’s a thing, though I’ve never heard of it being used before. EDIT, I didn’t quote it right, and @Powderhorn@beehaw.org caught me :)
The president certainly is recognizable … thing is, he’s a dead ringer for Joe Biden.
The resemblance between the current president and Joe Biden is uncanny, to say the least.
He is shaped like William Taft.
Presidents keep their title so he’s still “President Trump”. I hope his prison guards will respect that.
I thought he looked more like JFK Jr 🤔
No worries! I’d just like to keep the referring to Trump as “the president” to his spin team. They never call him “the former president” for a host of reasons, but that doesn’t mean reasonable people should follow suit.
Also they aren’t gonna handcuff him because they don’t want him to look guilty or something like that.
His skin is already orange, don’t you think his wardrobe should match it?
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This title is a little misleading. No, Trump has not been arrested but he did appear in court. He is not in any form of jail (yet).
We need one of those mod appliable (or vote-appliable?) “Misleading title” or “headline altered” tags maybe
The headline was not altered.
That does make me wonder if there’s an option in Lemmy to add tags to posts.
Biden returned the documents before they even know they were gone and he was the one who told them he had them. Trump refused to return the documents when they were requested back and he is caught on tape admitting to knowing he wasn’t supposed to have them. Also he asked his lawyers to destroy evidence.
Huge difference between a crime with someone cooperating and someone who tries to destroy evidence. Also the content of trump’s documents seem like they’re higher level and more highly classified.
the Justice Department recommended the defendants be released with no financial or special conditions as they aren’t a “flight risk.”
Being “arrested” is not the way I remember it
Headline in five days:
“We were wrong” says justice department when asked about Trump fleeing to Russia for diplomatic protection.
Have you tried being rich?
I’m trying every day
So much unprecedented stuff has happened since his term, but I don’t think anyone was ever confident he would actually stand trial for a federal jury.
He flew too close to the sun. He could have gotten away with so much shit, but he just can’t help himself and doesn’t know any boundaries.
AP news says Trump will be released without bond
Trump will be released without having to pay a bond. He will not have to surrender his passport or restrict his personal travel.
Meanwhile, someone allegedly steals a backpack in NYC and languishes in jail for years, then dies without ever having their trial.
that is so infuriating to me. no one should be above the law; trump and his cronies say the same thing. with so many americans getting profiled and wrongfully arrested and sentenced this makes me beyond angry
I hope he flees to Russia
He is too stupid to flee. I bet his brain broke when he pleaded not guilty and the charges weren’t immediately dropped. He thinks he is going to get out of this like all the other times he faced legal troubles
That would be hilarious.
So under arrest really means he checked into the courts and said “Yup, I am fighting this legal charge.” and walked away.
Well tbh both his ego and his bank account command him to try to run for president again so I don’t see him fleeing.
As strange as it sounds, he is legally able to do both of those while in exile.
Imagine the secret service making themselves comfortable in the Kremlin.
Clearly getting special treatment but the maga crowd will claim it’s a targeted attack.
Of course!
oh! Great, great. Not like he doesn’t have his own jet and yacht-adjacent properties.
I guess it’s already happened, but this time seems like a bigger deal
This is a bigger deal. These federal charges are way more serious than what he’s facing in New York.
This is a bigger deal. Telling authorities you don’t have top secret classified documents at your residence and allowing them to search certain rooms and then having them come back later with a warrant and finding them hidden in a bathroom (that they weren’t allowed into originally) is really really bad.
It makes his other charge of using campaign donations for personal reasons look like jaywalking.
He was processed in New York, too. I’m going to guess that he’s going to go through this process at least once more (in Georgia). I don’t think he’ll need to be fingerprinted and processed again if there are other federal charges while these are pending, but charges related to Jan. 6 might change his bail or conditions of release.
This is the biggest deal, imo. Having nuclear secrets, audio of him admitting he was breaking the law - and the public knowing about that, to me says they have much more ammo they’ll be bringing to light in trial. I think he’s screwed. I don’t want to hold my breath, but this seems like it will really take him down.
Cool, but remove this caps lock please.
It’s in Trump tweet font
No
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It’s the original formatting from the news site. And anyway, if I wanted to format it differently, I would have.
Is there no “op” tag on lemmy?
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A little on a tangent here but…
I’m guessing News and WorldNews will, again and like in Reddit, be actually USANews. Let’s see what the fediverse and instances do bring to that issue.
That would probably depend on which instance you’re using.
Unless I’m misunderstanding how this all works.
That’s my understanding. The only challenge is searching for news communities but not knowing where the instance is geographically.
I’m sure it will sort itself out over time.
The fact is that the whole world is addicted to US news and everyone wants to know what happens to Trump. Like it or not, the US is still the country that everyone else looks to, even if it’s just to shit on it.
I think at the moment it really depends on what posts people will submit to this community. There are still so few posts, that they will not get buried, like on Reddit.
Fucker needs to rot in prison!
Lock him up!
I’d like to see him manage to wiggle his way out of this one. I’m not American so I’m not familiar with the systems in place and all, but from everything I’ve seen, well… it’s not looking good for him. At all.
But honestly, with Trump legendary incompetence and ability to keep on digging his own grave, I’m barely here for the politics, this is just good entertainment at this point. Even if I know that while this is funny, this will probably be remembered as anything but.
I don’t think he can actually get out of this one, but he can still litigate it to hell and back. It will depend on which judges his various challenges land in front of and what their capacity for his bullshit is. But he’s 77 and eats garbage and doesn’t exercise. Very real possibility he just croaks before he ever sees the inside of a cell.
Jesus didnt realise that trump was 77 already :o then Biden is not too far off
Biden’s 80, but I bet he eats better and gets more exercise
I am from Poland and didn’t really follow the whole case. Can someone explain me why there is a thread that he will be arrested? It is hard to find the origin as the whole case exploded.
There’s a LegalEagle video which sums it up: Trump’s Bombshell Federal Document Indictment
Essentially,
- Trump took classified information during his time as president and failed to return them
- When asked to return them he failed to comply until forced
- When forced to comply, he still kept many documents the government knew were missing and lied to the government and his lawyers indicating that they were returned
- Was caught on tape admitting that he knew they were classified and that it was wrong for him to have them
The first bullet point apparently happens often (Biden, Pence, Hillary have all done similarly in the past). Trump is singular in that he didn’t readily comply with the request for the return of documents and the consequent lies to the government (also illegal).
He took top secret documents when he left the white house. They don’t belong to him, they’re meant to be secured in the library of congress or something. Anyway, librarians tried to get them back, he said no, did a bunch of illegal shit (including flashing them around people he wanted to impress) so FBI got involved, raided his place, found more secret documents, special prosecutor was appointed who took ages really nailing the iron clad case together. Now he been arraigned in court facing federal charges. Because Trumps a dumb shit.
Justice.
Don’t care who it is, I,D,R,G,L, you break the law to this extent you get punished.
Nobody is above the law.
