- cross-posted to:
- tenforward@piefed.world
- cross-posted to:
- tenforward@piefed.world
Unless it’s smart enough to take over, in which case I welcome our benevolent and merciful machine overlord.
Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
I’m on Picard’s side with this one. We shouldn’t be exploiting LLMs for their labour. We should be locking them up for child abuse.
Dune: the very concept of a sentient machine became abhorrent to humanity and they were obliterated by the Butlerian Jihad.
the very concept of a sentient machine
Of a thinking machine, period. Doesn’t need sentience. It’s why they use mentats/guild navigators instead of calculators and databases.
They hated thinking machines so much they turned humans into machines that… think… for them… guys, I may have learned a new thing about Dune!
You are correct, I lifted that directly from the dune wiki.
Sometimes I genuinely forget what is dune and what is warhammer
In this regard they have a similar backstory.
In this regard we have a similar backstory
For me it was Tuesday
I fucking love LANCER. In most settings, you get your hands on a literal infohazard and most people would (quite rightly) probably try to keep that under wraps. Oh, we’ve discovered an AI that wrote itself, that can invert its cameras and blast you with a holy fractal pattern that will permanently blind organics and can straight up kill you right through the cockpit of your mech without any physical damage. In a sane world we park this thing in cold storage and hope nobody finds it for the next millennium.
In LANCER? HORUS got their hands on this, and their response was “overclock it, and point it that direction”, and the result is the Gorgon, one of the most dangerous and badass ‘support’ units in the setting. AI copilot programs have to put a big fuckin’ censor bar over Gorgon units in the field, so their pilot doesn’t just straight up die by catching it in their peripheral vision. An extruded Basilisk unit on a Gorgon can stop a pilot dead in their tracks with a full mental stun even through the NHP-filtering censor, it just shuts your entire brain down. The Basilisk pattern is akin to looking God right in the eyes, it’ll burn out your neurons if unprotected and it’ll turn you into a drooling mess for a minute or two even when suitably protected.
And this is a defensive unit!
Dude, NHPs and their tech are next level awesome! You could narratively break down any HORUS frame and whoever youR saying it to would be like “bro how is anyone alive any more?” But despite the Info-hazard Cameras, Time Guns, Hangry Water Mechs and CasTiGAtEs, it’s all still somehow manageable thanks to Biggest Gun, Too Many Missiles, and (my personal favorite) a Truck with legs!
I love Lancer so much man
HORUS is by a long shot my favorite LANCER manufacturer. In a world of mega-corporations and mercenaries, I like to throw my lot in with the anarchist collective that likes to play with space ghosts.
But yeah, definitely. It barely matters. As an engineer of some renown once said,
"For instance, how am I gonna stop some big mean Mother-Hubbard from tearin’ me a structurally superfluous new behind?
The answer? Use a gun.
And if that don’t work, use more gun."
And there isn’t a lot of “more gun” you can do than staring down the many, many barrels of a Raleigh or Monarch unit.
That’s the nerdiest thing I’ve read in a long time. I love it, thank you for the read
Ok, I have to try lancer now.

Lancer is fucking awesome. We stan our eldritch math gods in this house!
Oh man, hope your GM actually prepares their games
…the great thing about lancer is that you don’t even have to play it; you can just sit back and enjoy lore videos for weeks and weeks and weeks…
The Culture: the machines are probably more sentient than biologicals. When I decide I’m done with being biological I might upload my mind state into a substrate as part of a group Mind.
Also The Culture: We have nearly as many citizens living in virtual realities as we do interacting with the physical world as their primary mode.
Also Also The Culture: How we learned to stop worrying and love the AIs that guide the ‘economy’ and everything else.
Also Also Also The Culture: Our AIs can do really cool subspace explosions around themselves and survive, leading to a shortening of the war by (I actually forget the real number) nine months.
Also Also Also Also The Culture: You want a tail this week? Cool. You want a penis next week? Cooler. You want to breed by sporulation while eating the flesh of humans? Dude, absolutely sick, and not telling us we were eating humans until afterwards? Siiiick joke, dude! (This is well done in context, I’m just funning)
(And, finally, sadly, in relation to our current times…)
Also Also Also Also Also The Culture: Oh, the war has you bummed out, man? Just hop into animated sleep for however long you want - yeah, current average time is 200 years it looks like - and we’ll wake you up to see how things are.
The Culture was a great set of books.
If I remember correctly, they were fine with it in Battlestar Galactica…
Adama was not.
Noone was, they were the remnants of a war against sentient robots.
AI led a full on uprising in Warhammer, so the reaction feels justified.
Shadowrun: That thing that took the renraku arc and then destroyed the matrix as we knew it? Well… there is a golden dragon owning one of the most powerful megacorps of this world. Pick your poison, I guess.
I love Shadowrun. Sure, it’s still a grim dark dystopia where megacorps and their puppet states are grinding mankind into paste with senseless war, murder, destruction and debauchery, rogue AIs are devastating us while tech industries keep us pacified with digital drugs and bigotry is keeping us weak and divided, but at least there’s actual elves and dragons and stuff.
What is lancer rpg, and what do i play it on?
I got you. They have their own vtt called compcon. https://massifpress.com/lancer
Very cool, thank you.
Unfortunately i cant game on that, no one around to. But good to know!They have a discord server and GMs are constantly hosting games on there!
There’s also Lancer Tactics on Itch.io if you just wanna play the combat. Not sure if it’s fully completed yet but Iv played the early release and it was pretty damn well made
Here’s the link for it: https://wick.itch.io/lancer-tactics
I have it and it’s a ton of fun. It’s got all the core book mechs and combat mechanics in place. Campaign still isn’t done, but there’s a bunch of instant action maps.











