• intensely_human@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    But you can make it actually random by doing this:

    • Tap your profile picture
    • Tap settings
    • Tap Playback
    • Toggle the “Automix” switch to off

    Now you have truly random shuffle

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      I’m pretty sure this is wrong. From what I understand, automix just blends together the ending and beginning of the two songs. For example if there’s silence at the end of one song, or ‘compatible’ music, the ‘ai’ will try to smooth out the transition like a dj would while making a mix.

      Edit: yup, that’s what it is https://support.spotify.com/ca-en/article/tracks-transitions/

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      I doubt it. True random shuffle play is rare, because humans don’t understand the chaos of true random generation, we see patterns in it and assume it’s not random.

      A truly random shuffle can play the same song twice. A truly random shuffle can play multiple songs from the same artist in a row. In the fullness of time all of these will happen with a true random shuffle.

      Nothing does that these days. Nearly everything “random” is algorithmically engineered to be less random so it feels more random to humans.

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        You can definitely make a truly random shuffle that doesn’t play the same song twice within a gap of ten songs.

        You just make a list of all the song IDs that aren’t in the last ten played, and grab an item at a random index.

        Randomness is a texture not a shape. Dice are random despite only being able to present six outcomes.

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          But then it is not truly random, that is the point.

          The same song 10 times in a row also has a chance of happening in a truly random list.

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            Random pick without replacement is no less random than random pick with replacement. You just have a continuously smaller pool to pick from.

            It’s absolutely possible to have better randomness/shuffle without repeating songs so often.

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            there exist other random distributions than the uniform distribution

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        A truly random shuffle can play the same song twice. A truly random shuffle can play multiple songs from the same artist in a row. In the fullness of time all of these will happen with a true random shuffle. Nothing does that these days.

        Tidal does and it’s annoying af.

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        now I wish for a more nuanced configed shuffle because I totally love having a few songs from the same artist back to back but not the same one.

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        A truly random walk through a playlist might choose the same song twice in a row. A truly random shuffle would only have each entry appear once and you’d have to play past the end of the shuffle to hear a song repeat.