Nixon is ultimately responsible for everyone killed because of [Marijuana]
Richard Nixon did not invent Marijuana hysteria. He just used a pre-existing societal issue to sway one side (and punish the other). The Nixon Administration also didn’t force cannabis criminalization onto a pro-legalization country. Dispite what you might think, the majority of Americans polled against Marijuana legalization for most of modern American history -both before, during, and for decades after Nixon left office. You’re pointing fingers at the wrong person and the real ones responsible are laughing at you.
I’m at work right now but if you want a more in-depth response, let me know and I’ll try to write one tonight.
ETA: This doesn’t even begin to address the honestly hilarious Americocentrism and recency bias in that claim. Richard Nixon did not time travel back to 1378 and force Soudoun Sheikouni to make the private import of cannabis punishable by death in Joneima. King Andrianampoinimerina didn’t have a 300-year advance copy of the Control Substance Act when he instituted capital punishment for even possession. A ten-year-old Richard Nixon didn’t show up at the Palazzo Braschi and demand Mussolini outlaw maijuana.
Depends if you factor in all the decisions that people have made using caffeine to keep them awake, that they wouldn’t have made if they had just gone back to bed.
But you won’t be counting them because it fucks your arguement, despite using it for weed.
And? I don’t see how this is a gotcha. The baseline for humanity is to miserable. It takes effort to be happy. Which means that people are going to find ways to get it without effort. There isn’t some mystical force that makes sure that we are all capable of being happy and the process of being happy is always going to be in our best interests. Sometimes things are just going to suck and we can either feel how much it sucks or not.
Yeah pretty much, hard to compare them because they cause problems in different ways. Under 100 deaths per year for caffeine overdose, cannabis is associated with more fatalities but not in a causal way. Caffeine isn’t a workplace safety issue and doesn’t harm judgement, cannabis has very measurable negative effects on cognition. Cannabis is, by no virtue of itself, associated with violence that comes with the black market.
Caffeine isn’t a workplace safety issue and doesn’t harm judgement
Funny enough my old workplace had to start going in and taking the coffee maker around 11am because too many people were overdoing their coffee and ending up jittery and anxiety ridden in the short term (making mistakes) and then exhausted to the point of almost falling asleep near the end of work (more mistakes)
Meanwhile my high ass was on a constant 7 speed the entire day (this was in an office so the worst I could do would have been to pay someone the wrong amount of money, which never happened)
Though tbh neither is realistically that bad for you unless you’re going overboard, which is kinda the case for most things in life
I use cannabis about once a week. There is a guy at work that I won’t work near because he comes into work high and I don’t want to be injured when he screws up, again.
Go ahead and get stoned, in your home, at night, when you can’t do anything stupid that hurts someone.
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The weed drug trade only exists because of the legal status of weed. Nixon is ultimately responsible for everyone killed because of it.
Cannabis has been associated in fatalities in countries where it’s completely legal.
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Yeah, that’s an intentionally obtuse abstraction of the issue.
You know better.
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Yes that’s the sound you heard, good job, not all your senses are fried.
Hate to break it to you, but 100% of people who drink water either have or will die.
This might be the most Lemmybrained reductionist take I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen a lot
Expand on your problems with it, then.
Richard Nixon did not invent Marijuana hysteria. He just used a pre-existing societal issue to sway one side (and punish the other). The Nixon Administration also didn’t force cannabis criminalization onto a pro-legalization country. Dispite what you might think, the majority of Americans polled against Marijuana legalization for most of modern American history -both before, during, and for decades after Nixon left office. You’re pointing fingers at the wrong person and the real ones responsible are laughing at you.
I’m at work right now but if you want a more in-depth response, let me know and I’ll try to write one tonight.
ETA: This doesn’t even begin to address the honestly hilarious Americocentrism and recency bias in that claim. Richard Nixon did not time travel back to 1378 and force Soudoun Sheikouni to make the private import of cannabis punishable by death in Joneima. King Andrianampoinimerina didn’t have a 300-year advance copy of the Control Substance Act when he instituted capital punishment for even possession. A ten-year-old Richard Nixon didn’t show up at the Palazzo Braschi and demand Mussolini outlaw maijuana.
Depends if you factor in all the decisions that people have made using caffeine to keep them awake, that they wouldn’t have made if they had just gone back to bed.
But you won’t be counting them because it fucks your arguement, despite using it for weed.
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Getting off your box on occasion is human nature.
What if you like drugs because it heightens music?
What if you do drugs just because you like doing drugs
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But let me guess. getting drunk is okay in your mind.
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You’re conflating drug use with addiction.
And? I don’t see how this is a gotcha. The baseline for humanity is to miserable. It takes effort to be happy. Which means that people are going to find ways to get it without effort. There isn’t some mystical force that makes sure that we are all capable of being happy and the process of being happy is always going to be in our best interests. Sometimes things are just going to suck and we can either feel how much it sucks or not.
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Yeah pretty much, hard to compare them because they cause problems in different ways. Under 100 deaths per year for caffeine overdose, cannabis is associated with more fatalities but not in a causal way. Caffeine isn’t a workplace safety issue and doesn’t harm judgement, cannabis has very measurable negative effects on cognition. Cannabis is, by no virtue of itself, associated with violence that comes with the black market.
Funny enough my old workplace had to start going in and taking the coffee maker around 11am because too many people were overdoing their coffee and ending up jittery and anxiety ridden in the short term (making mistakes) and then exhausted to the point of almost falling asleep near the end of work (more mistakes)
Meanwhile my high ass was on a constant 7 speed the entire day (this was in an office so the worst I could do would have been to pay someone the wrong amount of money, which never happened)
Though tbh neither is realistically that bad for you unless you’re going overboard, which is kinda the case for most things in life
I use cannabis about once a week. There is a guy at work that I won’t work near because he comes into work high and I don’t want to be injured when he screws up, again.
Go ahead and get stoned, in your home, at night, when you can’t do anything stupid that hurts someone.