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    Ive seen 2, max.

    If this is your current state of twitch, its because you keep clicking on boobi. Quit clicking on boobi if you dont want to be seeing boobi.

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      Ive heard this over and over, but it’s bullshit.

      I watch half a dozen streamers on twitch. 4 apex legends streamers and 2 developers(all dudes because that seems somewhat relevant). I don’t browse random streams and I don’t click on anything.

      Occasionally, I’ll end up watching other streamers if my guys raid someone as they sign off. But never are they raiding “boobi” streams. It’s usually other apex streamers or other devs.

      The other day, home page was filled with tits and scantally clad ladies. The recommended feeds were almost all that.

      So I’m not clicking on it. I’m not seeking it out. I’m not even hovering over it. But it was pushing that content hard.

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        I stream on Twitch. I see mostly video games. So I dunno? There are always randoms. But very rarely do I see the bikini stuff.

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      Just not true. I don’t have a twitch account and visited to see what it’s all about and it’s all over. Even if you peek inside the just chatting category it’s a huge majority of the top content

      Of anything, what you state is the result of content filtering for yourself and not for everyone at large.

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      I’d like to think that, but I just went to twitch to see what was up and i’ve got one “18+ 🥵🥵” in my recommends despite the only things i’ve really watched on twitch being like 24 hours of marvel snap to collect rewards in that game (i left it in a tab running in the background because why the fuck would i watch other people play something I can just play? but i wanted the in game rewards), some classic TNA (which despite the name is just wrestling) and the first iteration of watch forever (the ai generated Seinfeld).

      So they’re definitely advertising it outside people explicitly looking for it.

      That said i have no problem with it, if this is how people are making their bag in our capitalist hellscape, get that bag…

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        Ive gone actively searching for it and cannot find more than 2 at any given moment besides that one dude with the naruto pfp who is just autoplaying youtube twerk videos.

        And one of them who frequently does the topless cutoff videos has already needed to up the ante by having 4 girls on screen at once.

        Its not that big of a deal. There really isnt much to advertise. And its clearly not doing that well as a strategy to get viewers.

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    Never seen these cam girls everyone complains about on my twitch feed. I don’t seek that stuff out though either. You can also filter out content in settings, but I’ve never had to. This “problem” seems like a non issue.

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      If you click “I want to watch mature content” on any profanity stream such as Soda or Summit your feed magically starts filling up with titty streamers.

      The notion that you need to seek them out first is false.

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        Didn’t even know that existed. Guess I’d have to seek it out, or get into discussion on lemmy. Is see profanity on chat. I’ve never seen these girls.

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    They should change the name to Twatch.

    I’ll see myself out.

    Buy my girlfriend a pregnancy test while I’m out…

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    I don’t get some of these comments. You can want to avoid random nudity without bring a prude or jealous.

    I’d argue that a LOT of people are not interested in seeing 99.9% of the population naked, and there should be nothing wrong with that. I don’t care what they look like. Sometimes people just don’t want to look at rectums.

    The mindset of “you have to be happy about unexpectedly seeing a stranger naked or you’re a prude” also doesn’t sit right with me.

    I would have just stopped using twitch, personally.

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      It’s the internet post-2014. If you have simply never heard of someone’s particular flavour of BDSM kink before, they take it like you’re attacking them.

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      Maybe growing up in a warm, costal area makes it more common, but young women just wear similar outfits to most feminine streamers where I’m from. They usually aren’t making a statement about it, it’s just hot outside and they don’t mind showing off. It’s normal.

      Some streamers do embody the meme. Some focus cameras on their ass. However, feminine streamers aren’t the majority, and most of them aren’t even that sexual. On a whole, men have more viewers, with almost every top streamer being male.

      Part of why the discourse around sexual streamers seems so prudish is that they don’t dominate on twitch. There are a few popular ones, but women don’t even dominate the site; there’s just more of them than in the past. Most feminine streamers aren’t sexual. People see what they want to see.

      The only male streamer ever suspended for showing his bare chest was crossdresser. Masculinity is normalized, so femininity is othered.

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        Don’t get me wrong, I’m not about telling other people how to dress or what to wear. Not at all.

        To be honest with you, I don’t really go on twitch. When I made my comment, I had some of my earlier experiences with lemmy on my mind. I just turned off nsfw in my app settings though.

        My main reasoning was so that certain things didn’t show up when I was showing something else to family, or if a coworker saw my phone over my shoulder. There are some jobs where you really don’t want your boss to see certain things, but most other forms of slacking off are ok.

        For me, it wasn’t even about anyone’s chest. It was not wanting furry porn haha. They really should have thought about this before instating it.

        Now people will be upset regardless of what they do.

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        dude, i’m just saying that there other places for noon-gaming stuff and those people are invading a site that was born for videogames. but then, i’m not using twitch for quite a while now since the homepage was taken over by IRL streams. I just opened twitch.tv (not logged in) a minute ago and in the homepage there’s a dude sleeping (with the name of the stream “i’m only sleeping” wtf??), one deejay, someone cooking and a saxophonist…

        that’s 4 streams out of 8 in the homepage that have nothing to do with gaming.

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          Non gaming streams have their own categories, and they certainly add value. Everyone loved the Bob Ross stream when it started, but now there’s something wrong with cooking or musicians? Some people who come for the sax player might get into games. Twitch has problems, but adding variety to their streaming platform isn’t one of them.

          There aren’t less gamers on twitch because of non gamers. I don’t even think game streams have suffered much as a whole.

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    If you want video game streams then look for video games. I looked up the starcraft 2 section and there’s not a single thirst trap streamer, same with the video games that I play.

    People are always getting pissed off that their favorite thing no longer exists. It’s still there, dummy! You just think it doesn’t because complaining is more popular than talking about the things that people like.

    inb4 “it’s just a meme, it can’t mean anything”

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      there are a few in very popular yet casual categories like Overwatch, but yes you have to go into hot tubs to see them and spend time in those streams to get recommended them

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        Who? I’m looking at the Overwatch 2 directory right now and can’t find a single one. Like half of them listed don’t even have face cams on, judging by a quick scan of the thumbnails.

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          I mean by the token of there being “a few” there…aren’t many.

          I guess checking on a Saturday night might be my only advice. YMMV, I’ve seen it happen rarely, maybe it was a fluke.

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    The prude subcurrent on Lemmy is apparently massive. You honestly are being hardly inconvenienced by boob streams and yet it deserves and inordinate amount of complaining. On a real impact basis, you are far more impacted by video games you aren’t interested in than boob streamers.

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    Well, on Twitch and YouTube and Reddit, I’m settled.

    On Twitch, I never visit front-page. I follow the channels I follow.

    On YouTube, I watch the subscribed channels (and recommend videos. If good, I follow).

    Reddit, I don’t visit All or Popular. I have the subreddits I wanna follow.

    On Lemmy, it’s so new that I haven’t found all the places, so I go to All on Local and see what’s up - like I do now.

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      Yeah, I do a similar thing with youtube and reddit. I am interested in communities of humans I like curating content and conversations. I am less interested in a robot doing so, even if it wasn’t a crap advertisement and engagement robot.

      I am interested in the humans and I find it infuriating how often these websites try to shove what the robots want me to engage with down my throat while hiding access to the humans/communities I am interested in so I always have to click through to see it.

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        Yeah for that reason I just have my YouTube subscription download and go to my plex server so I don’t have to deal with ads or algorithms and we have a discord channel where we share interesting videos so I find a lot of my content that way. For reddit I just stopped going there after the exodus except when doing searches and I can’t find what I’m looking for I’ll add reddit to the search query to see the comments and hope there’s an answer there

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    There’s still tons of video game streamers. In fact, even if 10k titty streamers join the site, that doesn’t push even a single video game streamer out.

    There’s a market for both things, and neither thing is eating the audience of the other.

    This is all just stupid neo-puritanical pearl clutching.

    A woman showing her tits on twitch isn’t going to hurt you, or anyone else.

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      You know, I don’t get offended or anything. But it’s impossible to mute / block streamers, and there are some particularly annoying offenders which I just don’t want to see when I open twitch. Just give me the option to filter that out and I won’t complain again.

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        Every single time I go to watch a clip theres a ton of random partially naked people in the useless recomended section under the clip. I wish I could turn that off

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        This reminds me of when I used TOR to check my Facebook account after so many years. It was constantly throwing random almost-explicit-but-definitely NSFW pages at me.

        "Where did these come from? Did I accidentally subscribe at some point? Oh they all say “suggested for you.”

        Can you turn off “suggested for you”? Lol no. That’s how they force ads on you.

        My findings concluded as expected: All the people I knew in highschool are living their dream lives somehow, my grandma’s still into weird rightoid conspiracies, and FB is a dogpoo platform I don’t understand how anybody still uses lol.

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        There’s a block functionality that any user can use and iirc if you block a streamer they will be filtered out from your recommends/etc

        Helps to clean things up if you wanna hide the usuals you aren’t a fan of

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        Only a corporation would be so completely uninterested in the experience of users that they wouldn’t have a way to mute or block channels. Honestly they should be ashamed they don’t have that feature, how long has twitch been around?

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    I’ve personally been blamed for the fact that lascivious female streaming material shows up on my feed despite the facts that I’m not sexually interested in females and the fact that I’ve never even seen a Twitch.

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    This makes me feel disappointed. I still remember when I discovered twitch years ago an thought “a whole site for livestreams of people playing videogames? That is so cool!”. Nothing lasts forever I guess …

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      Without intentional effort to prevent it, every platform eventually becomes some level of this.

      Youtube: remember when they had to scrap “reply” videos because they were all borderline NSFW spam?

      Onlyfans: was originally intended to be a platform for fans of fashion, idols, etc. I guess they just embraced it since then.

      Tumblr: banned NSFW content because they thought they were becoming a porn site and didn’t want to moderate that.

      Reddit: Segregated it and relies on community moderation, because otherwise it’s like half of the front page.

      Twitter: it’s still all over, under most popular posts. I don’t know if they moderate it out or not.

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            Unless it was just urban legend, VHS supposedly won out over Betamax because there was more porn available. It was the first “killer app” and helped make early rental stores profitable.

            And similar things happened with all forms of the internet: Gopher, BBS (though maybe less so, it was before my time and so bandwidth limited), Hotline, the original cam girls and blogs.

            It’s just porn, all the way down. That’s why it’s called the oldest profession.

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              Unless it was just urban legend, VHS supposedly won out over Betamax because there was more porn available. It was the first “killer app” and helped make early rental stores profitable.

              That was just urban legend I’m pretty sure. The reason it was able to be made profitable by video rental stores, I believe, is because JVC was more willing to license out their technology than Sony, so it was cheaper and more available to the average consumer. VHS also came out with more/had more recording styles more faster, and was more willing to degrade the integrity of their system, and degrade video quality, compared to Sony.

              I forget if this was the case to begin with, or if this was a retroactive codec/recording style, but you could watch a full home theater VHS copy of a movie with one VHS tape, compared to the two betamax tapes you would need. That contributes, on top of not being a more proprietary technology, to a cheaper overall price. You could also, at a certain point, record multiple hours of a basketball game, in really shitty quality, if you wanted.

              Basically, VHS benefited from a sort of economy of scale, and you were able to record more for less money total, which was rapidly becoming more appealing and more relevant, compared to the marginal quality gains of betamax, as things like VCRs and more accessible home movies started to hit the home video market.

              I think the only major hits betamax ended up having was sort of filling out a gap in more mid-quality video recordings for stuff like TV shows, on the production end, because they were of higher quality than VHS, but I don’t remember much about that.

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                The result of VHS’s open system still enabled porn to show up on it sooner. And that helped more dudes want to drop $1-2k on a VCR.

                Beta_cam_ did live on as a TV video format, I used one in high school and our local cable access still ran on betacam S in the late 90s.

                It was the same sized tape as Betamax, but ran at a much higher speed for better quality (more info per inch of tape), they even switched to digital at some point, but I’d move on to MiniDV in college by then.

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                  Good to know, so it’s not all urban legend, a little bit of truth to it.

                  Also good to know about the betacam stuff, I couldn’t quite remember what the situation was there.

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          Human beings like sex. Any sufficiently large platform will naturally trend toward it if possible.

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        Reddit: intentionally curating the internet’s biggest high school to onlyfans content pipeline.

        FTFY. I am genuinely shocked they haven’t been called out for this yet.

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            Reddit allows people as young as 13 to sign up. It is also one of the biggest sites for OF marketing on the Internet, and the site itself is probably at least 20-30% porn depending on how you measure it. This isn’t even some hypothetical thing, you can go see people with 5 year old reddit accounts making posts like “now that I’m 18 I can finally show you my butthole.”

            To be clear here my crusade is not against porn on Reddit, it’s against children on Reddit, and not because I care about guarding their virtue or anything, but originally because I thought reddit was better before it got infested with teenagers, and now because I want to see the site burn, so this seems like a good string to pull.

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        Twitter: it’s still all over, under most popular posts. I don’t know if they moderate it out or not.

        They used to try, now they don’t at all.