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    “While boarding the Dhow in rough seas - such searches are considered among the most dangerous naval missions - one SEAL team member fell into the ocean and a second tried to recover him.”

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          Still, there’s training videos of seals being bound and gagged and thrown into a pool with a lockpick or something at the bottom. They’re supposed to sink to the bottom, do a bunch of breaches to get air, and then sink to the bottom to collect tools and break free.

          After all that I thought Navy seals were invincible in their mative habitat. I guess the ocean is so much more hardcore than all the training we can think up.

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            thing about a pool is it’s only a few feet deep. you sink in the ocean, you just keep sinking. you get lost in the ocean, there’s a whole lot of ocean and you’re moving from the point that you fell into. it’s night in the ocean? no one is finding you, even if they pass by a few dozen feet away. all this, and you’re constantly fighting the whole time you’re in there without food or fresh water. Between that and temperature shock, you’re losing consciousness in 12 hours in the best case scenario and, depending on the temp of the water, maybe only a few minutes. Once you’re lost in the open ocean you are ggggoooooonnnnneeee.

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            The ocean is kinda like mountain climbing in Antarctica, even if youre good at mountain climbing and dealing with extreme temps combong the two is an exponential increase in difficulties.

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            For any sailor in open sea especially rough seas of you go overboard it’s generally presumed you will not be recovered. Even carriers in smooth seas have the occasional overboard loss, somebody will slip no one notices and by the time they go dropping zodiacs and getting helos in the air they might be miles away leaving a search area of several miles.

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            They might be able to stay alive for days even in cold ocean water, but that doesn’t mean you’ll find them in time

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            Seals can drown. They are mammals and as such don’t have gills. They may be able to hold their breath for a long time, but eventually they have to come back up to breathe.

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    news aside, dear lord there are some serious american imperialism shills in this thread

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      Kinda crazy that when it comes to bombing the shit out of the middle east all of the warmonger came put of the woodwork. Would’ve love to have seen this kind of enthusiasm against russia.

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        Trump likes Russia, the Dems are helping Ukraine, and the people who get bombed in the Middle East dress funny and have brown skin.

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            For a guy called mechanical jester you seem to take things awfully seriously.

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              Mocking SpecOps who are KIA is something generally off limits for me. I handed over a hundred of our flags to surviving family so I’m humor dysfunctional in that area. However… jokes? Okay that’s kinda funny. Best if served from combat vets I think. I regret making a fuss. Dysfunctional.

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                From my experience with soldiers they probablywould have made worse jokes/ mockings about anything and everything including other soldiers and people they have killed.

                And since they also died attacking a civilian vessel I don’t feel the need to show any respect in the first place.

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                  “The official said crew on the dhow, which did not have a country flag, were planning to transfer the missile parts, including warheads and engines, to another boat off the coast of Somalia.”

                  Looks like “Finding Out” to me.

                  The gallows humor is real. Coping mechanisms for traumatic jobs is real. Ever hear civilian firefighters joke around? Same. Military firefighters and combat medics probably have the darkest humor. We’ve all collectively decided we want people to be really good at killing people and blowing shit up so other people don’t kill out people and blow our shit up.

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                  Anything carrying weapons isn’t “civilian”, it’s a military supply ship.

                  Imagine thinking just because it’s not painted gray and equipped with guns that it isn’t for a military use case.

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                  You can joke about anything, I’m a fan of dark humour. But these aren’t even jokes, they’re just spiteful remarks about 2 dead guys.

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                Nazi servants dying isn’t a sad event. If civilians were killed I’d be sad. Military is putting themselves in that position of their own free will.

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      If you’ve ever fallen off a boat into the water and been sucked under that boat and had to claw yourself back out again, you will understand why this is surprisingly non-trivial.

      If you’ve been awake for 72 hours, jacked up on a pharmaceutical only God and the six most sadistic chemists at the Pentagon know about, and you just pulled yourself up on board a ship in the dead of night after tailing pirates for days, I have to image its even harder.

      The Navy does prefer to kill their best and brightest in helicopter crashes. But its still very possible to get drowned to death on the job.

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        Why isn’t halting a genocide more important than interrupting commercial shipping to you?

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              Per your second article, “The Houthis say they are targeting ships which are Israeli-owned, flagged or operated, or which are heading to Israeli ports. However, many have no connections with Israel.

              Emphasis mine. So what exactly do they have to do with the Palestinian genocide? Sounds like they’re just clout chasing and distracting from it.

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                Yes Israel, the countries illegally aiding genocide and ships heading there will be totally honest about which ships are going to their ports.

                Hint: numerous ships with no indication on their manifests have made their way to Israeli ports to deliver weapons.

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              You think the Houthi attacks are anything other than a tactic to distract the west from Ukraine? Read between the lines.

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                Yes surely Russia is somehow behind the Israeli decision to genocide Palestinians.

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                  Don’t play dumb, that’s not what I said. Russia and Iran had a hand in the October attacks by the Palestinians which started this war however.

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            Houthis have been answering it for going on ten years now. Just ask the Saudi princes who got fireballed down at the F1 track last year.

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              You’re going to have to expand on how that was successful for them and how it answers the question.

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      Sending my nation’s professional wet works crew to the other side of the world in order to assassinate some guys who took over a ship flagged to Panama, because it serves a national security interest to keep a cargo ship full of fleshlights from doing an end run around the Horn of Africa.

      And if you question any of this shit, or suggest other nations can do it now too, you are no better than that guy the CIA backed to do freedom fighting in Afghanistan back in the 70s.