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    Ads are used to influence customers, right, but how many people on train station are about to buy a fighter jet or a tank? (Maybe itā€™s a part of recruitment strategy) If they wanted to influence DoD or elected representatives then there are more direct options

    Instead, remember that ads are paid for, and nobody needs to know how much, and that money probably is much less tightly controlled

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      yep, and alongside: go-nowhere hype-du-jour businesses are a remarkably good vehicle for pushing money from A->B for many of these people

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        ? thatā€™s raytheon, a large company with multiple state customers that delivers what it says in spec, not anduril

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          I donā€™t mean just raytheon/MICshit but also the broader use of the technique by extraction-grifters

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      Ah, thankyou for bearing with me, I see what you mean.

      I just assumed there must be a large military office nearby and they were targeting the procurement personnel who do the actual contract and tender work, plus maybe the manufacturer headquarters is nearby and this is part of one of the more revolting symptoms of a highly militarized capitalist culture. I didnā€™t get quite as far as drawing the connection to targeting politicians and staffers who likely canā€™t put a meeting with missile sales reps on their publicly documented calendars, but that makes a lot of sense.

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        thereā€™s another thing in american context specifically: generally keeping defense manufacturers in state is a popular decision among voters (both parties) because it brings DoD contracts (lots of money) and well paid both blue and white collar jobs. this in turn influences back procurement decisions (a bit) (hey, my state has a factory of this junk obsolete since it was on drawing board (like A10), can you put some money in it? closing that factory would lose me an election)

        this is more clearly seen in nuclear weapons manufacture, against all logic itā€™s spread around the country with little reliable logistics between these sites

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          My sense growing up in Huntsville was that the airport ads for defense contractors were kind of like, e.g., Exxon sponsoring a pavilion at EPCOT. The intent wasnā€™t to push any specific consumer towards buying any specific product, but to pump out a positive image for the company generally.

          And a lot of those contractorsā€™ people fly through Huntsville on business. (For those not in the know: The airport is just down the highway from Redstone Arsenal, which is where we brought all them Nazis we recruited to help us beat the Commies to the Moon. The only reason Huntsville exists as more than a sleepy/dying cotton mill town is the space program and missile warfare.) There may well be deals along the lines of ā€œadvertise here and your people get the cushy loungeā€.