A woman wants a change in the law after her cat was killed by a loose dog.
Jess Rozee’s cat Kitty was killed where she lives in Swindon - she said CCTV footage shows her pet being chased, chewed, shaken then left still just alive by two men with the dog.
Ms Rozee has started a petition that so far has 7,000 signatures on it, asking to make it an offence for a person’s dog to kill another pet, by prosecuting owners.
I see the issue, but i dont think she is prepared for the consequences. Her cat probably killed a bunch of animals in its life. Cats are the No 2 bird killer after glass windows afaik. Yes we should ban pitbulls but that also wont save your cat. Its just gonna get run over instead. Dont let your animals run free if you dont want them to die.
Not pets so there might be no legality
Alternatively: public domain pets
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Were any of those birds endangered or threatened species?
I dont know at that point it would be a case by case basis
I agree, but that part wouldn’t apply because birds aren’t pets (unless someone let out their bird, which I don’t think happens, but in that case yeah it should apply).
This should be an offence, I hate seeing people with dogs that they can’t even control on a leash, it’s a danger to everyone and maybe this would make people think again about getting an upgraded pit bull terrier with max enchantments.
Also I would never let a cat outside without full supervision, they have become an invasive species basically (as u mention) killing off lots of other animals whenever they are out (but this should still be an offence if it was killed by someones dog, etc and the other way round).
**may have. Not all cats are birders.
And no, despite what paranoid terminally online people will tell you, not all outdoor pets are destined to be run over.
yeah some get eaten by coyotes. valid point I guess.
The infamous English coyotes
sorry, chavs
England doesn’t have coyotes. Let me guess, your an American applying your American perspective unilaterally to the world?
No foxes? Badgers? You think they only have one predator?
Lmao, neither are known for attacking and hunting adult cats.
But do keep desperately making up bullshit rather than doing an ounce of research yourself.
Neither are coyotes as well… but it does happen and especially when their food supplies are dwindled, by like say outdoor cats?
Yes, coyotes do naturally prey on cats.
Again, stop making up bullshit to justify your flawed points.
Here’s a hint, before saying a “fact”, try googling it to see if it is.
Vermin and insects are beneficial for nature too, not just birds are the issue….
Lmfao. Bruh, ban mouse and rat traps then.
Cats are literally domesticated pets because humans in urban settings need to constantly kill mice and rats.
Those are selective…. A cat isn’t, not even close to being comparable.
Outside in a city? You mean rural, farms are rural. For urban you would use traps like you suggested…? Or does the same not apply back? You can use a cat indoors for your own personal use of course.
I mean areas where we store food and grain, which is everywhere humans live, not just farms.
There’s a reason cats are known even for going on old timely sailing ships. We have used them for micing and ratting forever, because we need to constantly kill mice and rats.
Cities these days have dedicated programs for killing rodents. It’s insane to be like ‘cats are destroying the mouse and rat population’ when they are thriving.
Ah yes, all enclosed areas where the cats don’t affect the wildlife itself…
Or as you said, traps!
You know that owners put bells on cats for a reason right?
And the point is that if we’re mass killing rodents, then cats doing so for us is not a problem.
in an urban environment, are you watching the animal, making sure it’s safe…ya know, being RESPONSIBLE for the thing? hell no, you aren’t when you let your cat roam free to do whatever. it’s abuse and neglectful. people in cities with free roaming outdoor cats should be charged, and banned from owning pets due to their abusive neglect.
If you put a bell on cat it’s not gonna be a very good exterminator anymore dude….
What point are you even trying to make here anymore?
The thing is to uur pets are supposed to stay in your property. Is there a city where it’s legal to let your car roam.
In the UK under the Animals Act 1971, cats are “free-spirits” meaning they “cannot be held guilty of trespass under civil law and, therefore, their owners or keepers cannot be liable for any damage done”.
Hypocrites if they want dogs held accountable, but not their own animal. Yet cats are known to cause devastation to all local wildlife, they also spread diseases in gardens, they live shorter unhealthier lives since they pick up all sorts of other bacteria and viruses.
It’s quite frankly inhumane to let cats free, and it’s wild that there’s a place that won’t hold their owners accountable for the property damage they inevitably cause. Most places have updated their laws as new informations come out in the last 50 years. Those laws aren’t even based on scientific studies I believe. It’s all “feel good”.
I’m pretty sure the RSPCB disproved this years ago, at least for birds, but I can’t find that study.
So can foxes, badgers, rats etc. Most cats are vaccinated annually against diseases and will go to the vet for checkups regularly, therefore the risk is much lower.
Shorter? Sure, but not because of disease. Traffic is a much bigger problem, letting cats outside in cities or near busy roads is a far greater risk to their lifespan and I would never recommend someone to do that. Claiming they live unhealthier lives is wrong too. An outdoor cat can get so much more exercise than an indoor cat ever could, reducing obesity (as long as it’s not grifting for food with every other household nearby, which is rare).
It is much more humane in the UK (which is where I am and where the petition is) to let cats outside, and let them enjoy fresh air every day, discover new smells, socialise with other animals, and generally be so much happier, than trapping them inside from when they’re a kitten until they either die miserable, or escape and find an owner who will take care of them properly.
Have you ever met a cat? It is extremely hard to control what they do, and the law recognises that. Theoretically, a judge could rule that cats are under the same category as dogs, but a cat would first have to do as much damage as a dog could do. Only one legal case got close. where the cat “got into Mrs. W. ‘s, fiat ate mincepies and fish, got on to a bed, and scratched the bedpost”. The judge sided with the cat owner.
The UK has too, see the Animal Welfare Act 2006.
The RSPCA and other organisations like them conduct studies and campaign for the law to be updated accordingly. The UK is one of the top countries for animal welfare as per World Animal Protection, and is significantly better than the USA.
Lmfao, no, they were lying before and have now admitted. Yeesh.
Fair enough, I was wondering why I couldn’t find that.
This is not the case. It is legal for cats to roam virtually everywhere.
I await lawsuits from Bird #1 through Bird #25, are they filing a class action? That would probably take up less of the courts time
I’ll never understand the downvotes from people who willing allow their cats to get killed by letting them roam free without any supervision. beyond stupid they are. it’s neglect and animal abuse. nothing less.