• Davel23@kbin.social
    2552·
    11 months ago

    Guy shoots down Elon’s brainless submarine rescue idea

    Musk: What a pedo guy!

    Guy posts actual CP to Twitter (sorry, I’m not gonna call it X)

    Musk: This is fine.

  • PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works
    2071·
    11 months ago

    While the media posted by the influencer has been removed, numerous text interactions with the deleted posts from his followers are still on the platform. Some of those posts mention a child depicted in the photos as young as one and a half years old.

    Source

    To make matters worse, the image appears to have been on the platform for several days before being removed. Lucre even described the image in detail in a separate tweet, noting that it had been taken from a video. The video in question involved the abuse of three children, one of whom was reportedly strangled to death after the filming.

    Source

    The CSAM material was left up for FOUR DAYS (July 22-26) before he was even suspended. Then they let him “delete” it…and reinstated him. People commented during those 4 days DESCRIBING THE IMAGES.

    What the FUCK please tell me this is worth a visit from the FBI, getting removed from the App Store, some massive GDPR violation, fucking something. How is this story not bigger news?

    To put this in perspective, 4 graphic CSAM images that an account with 500,000 followers posted were left up on Twitter for 4 days. The person who posted the images was suspended for less than a day.

    • fiat_lux@kbin.social
      952·
      11 months ago

      Content warning: I deliberately avoid providing much more detail than “it was clearly CSAM” but I do mention the overall tweet contents and pretext.

      I remember this from when it happened and unfortunately did see the text portion and thumbnail from the original tweet.

      He did it under the pretext of reporting on the arrest of a person involved in the video and large-scale CSAM production. It started as a standard news-report-style where they list the name, age and arrest details of someone taken into custody. Initially it looked like the normal alt-right tweet about “look at how paedophilia is rampant and the world is sinful!”.

      The guy describes himself as “chief trumpster” and a “breaker of narratives” and journalist. He claimed the details of the CSAM were provided by the Dutch police. He then described the title and detailed events of a CSAM video in the tweet. Unfortunately for me, the detailed events were below the tweet fold, so I had no idea it was going there until I expanded it.

      The tweet image attachment or link unfurl thumb had a frame from the video itself. It was an otherwise-SFW image the adult abuser who was being talked about. Unfortunately I didn’t realise until after I had expanded the tweet text contents what the thumbnail was. I actually thought it was an opengraph error at first.

      Even in the context of “reporting shocking content” the tweet was way over the line and went from 0 to 100 in a few words. I did not need the info on the CSAM, nobody except the police and courts does. The video title alone was over the line.

      Musk phrasing this as another “I was told” decision is just him knowingly deferring responsibility.

        • fiat_lux@kbin.social
          20·
          11 months ago

          Thanks, it was partly my fault for taking a curiosity tour of Twitter to see whether there was a noticeable right-wing shift from a few months earlier.

          Hopefully I can at least prevent someone from having to go try to find the context for themselves and finding the full tweet, because it was awful even as text.

          I assumed there would be “they took it out of context!” apologia when it was inevitably reported on, but the actual context didn’t improve anything or abdicate anyone from responsibility.

          My heart goes out to the human moderators at twitter who had to see more of it and didn’t have the choice to bail before learning more. And obviously also to the victims of one of the most heinous acts I’ve ever heard about.

      • visak@lemmy.world
        7·
        11 months ago

        Thank for this. Seeing this explained this whole thing makes much more sense. Not in a good way, but I now understand. Edit: fixed typo

        • fiat_lux@kbin.social
          7·
          11 months ago

          For what it’s worth, I had no idea if it was the absolute worst journalistic judgement I have ever seen, or a way for him to find more CSAM, or some bizarre combo. That is something for the FBI to find out. But I do know the decision to unban him is beyond wild, even for someone trying to bankrupt a social media company. Text almost never makes me physically recoil.

          • visak@lemmy.world
            1·
            11 months ago

            Yeah, even if we give them the benefit of the doubt that it was a bad attempt at journalism, there’s no reason to defend them. Also bizarre that Elon would even get involved in it.

    • Umbra@kbin.social
      138·
      11 months ago

      Because it was one image and it wasn’t showing anything explicit. That’s how I understood it from reading more about this story.

  • ArugulaZ@kbin.social
    1451·
    11 months ago

    Remember all that nonsense the media was posting about Mastodon being a haven for illegal porn? Almost feels like a smear campaign to defame an up and coming X/Twitter competitor.

    • Odusei@lemmy.world
      752·
      11 months ago

      Most online platforms are susceptible to hosting CSAM and Mastodon deserves to be scrutinized and investigated for it as much as the rest. The problem with a million decentralized instances is a million different people in charge of detecting and eliminating CSAM from their platforms, and it’s going to be a challenge as this platform grows.

    • ScrawnyStork@sh.itjust.works
      442·
      11 months ago

      Facebook has the most csam of any website, but I hardly ever see the same fear mongering from the media. Odd.

      • Aer@lemmy.world
        11·
        11 months ago

        I am scared to ask but at the same time I have a need to substantiate claims… So regretfully. Source?

        • SkaveRat
          17·
          11 months ago

          If you search “elon musk roleplay son” you can find several screenshots and news sites reporting on it.

          Here’s one

          Note: while OP says “ERP”, it’s not really erotic (apart from wishing to go to night clubs). Still creepy as F

    • CADmonkey@lemmy.world
      12·
      11 months ago

      I had to figure out what ERP meant in this context because I was just picturing some poor kid trying to use SAP.

  • RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca
    39·
    11 months ago

    It’s like literally everything he’s done is to deliberately tank the company and lose billions of dollars.

      • MarshReaper@lemmy.world
        18·
        11 months ago

        Maybe after a few too wrong moves, he’s trying to tank the company and make people think he’s doing it on purpose so he could say that all this time he’s been doing it on purpose. On purpose on purpose.

        • b3nsn0w@pricefield.org
          6·
          11 months ago

          or he’s actually just sabotaging one of the largest western social networks through weaponizing his gross incompetence

          • MarshReaper@lemmy.world
            3·
            11 months ago

            I believe that all of these major players are being controlled at almost gunpoint into destroying their platforms and making horrible business decisions (facebook, twitter, youtube, etc).

            • eestileib@sh.itjust.works
              2·
              11 months ago

              They overextended in an era of easy money. Belts tighten and they still want to hit their growth targets, so they take away some sesame seeds.

              I think people are realizing they don’t really like the burger as much as they used to.

        • Ajen@sh.itjust.works
          3·
          11 months ago

          “I’m so great, I can bankrupt a multibillion dollar company and lose tens of billions of dollars of my own money!”

          Weird flex, but ok

        • Lightor@lemmy.world
          2·
          11 months ago

          True, but I don’t think one prohibits the other.

          I’d also add that a defense of ignorance becomes harder to attribute his moves to when he is surrounded by people who inform him. Choosing not to listen to them seems malicious.

  • ultratiem @lemmy.world
    29·
    11 months ago

    I think any smart run company left Twitter the moment Elon took over (in his own eclectic way carrying a kitchen sink).

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/17/tesla-elon-musk-thailand-diver-pedo

    Just one, one drop in a sea of lunacy and megalomania. But that’s Elon. Now if this guy took over a company that directly impacted your profits, what would you do?

    The real sad thing is that even if he is the Yahoo to Tumblr, it won’t impact him one iota. He’ll still be rich as all creation and people will still fawn over him and listen to what he has to say.

  • FluffyPotato@lemmy.world
    291·
    11 months ago

    At this point they could have but a giant brown bear in charge of twitter. Gave it free reigns to eat whoever it likes and twitter would still be more successful and have a less damaged brand. Like is Elon actively trying to run it into the ground?

    • chaogomu@kbin.social
      271·
      11 months ago

      I don’t think he is. See, he’s lived his entire life in a world without consequences, and he’s never actually been a good businessman, and certainly never invented anything. But he’s built his own little brand around pretending he’s both and not a con man who was scamming carbon credits to boost the stock price of his flagship company.

      At some point, he started to believe his own branding. After all, he must be a good businessman if he’s the richest man in the world, right?

      As a note, Bernie Madoff had a net worth of almost $70 Billion at his peak. He was one of the richest men in the world.

    • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
      142·
      11 months ago

      Given the other typos, this might just be another, but in case it’s an error and you might want to use the phrase some other place where it matters:

      It’s “give it free rein” like a horse you’re letting choose its own path and pace, rather than a monarch who would “reign.”

      You could let a bear reign over all Musk’s properties with better results than he’s having, but it would be a different sentence.

      Both reign and rein can be nouns or verbs:

      The Fed is trying to “rein in” inflation.

      The “reign” of King Charles the Turd has barely begun.

      (Sorry, my inner schoolmarm slipping out.)

      • Coreidan@lemmy.world
        22·
        11 months ago

        You sound insufferable. You went on a multi paragraph rant to correct a strangers spelling on the internet. Wow.

    • akai@kbin.social
      6·
      11 months ago

      Yes, that’s exactly what he’s trying to do. The sooner he runs it into the ground, the less money he’s going to lose.

      tapsideofhead.gif

  • nitefox@lemmy.world
    151·
    11 months ago

    I swear, I thought it was a joke until I actually saw his tweet on the platform