The name has been almost permanently ruined. Whenever people hear of it, they always think of no food, 1984, worshipping the leader, getting your entire family arrested for not doing so, all that stuff. And if you say otherwise, they just call you a propagandist who is hiding the truth. And even if Korea’s government does anything like build a water park, people say that it is just to “fool the world into believing they are good”. Like they can’t even build an entire village without people saying that they are just building it to deceive people.
At least China is taken seriously by a lot of people.
Please, we are hearing what North Korea is like from people who escaped it as though a prison. They’ve said finding a dead body discarded on the side of the road is a regular occurrence, that the propaganda there is so rampant you never even realize that your “dear leader” is fat until after you leave. When a humanitarian group went to perform cataract surgeries for the blind, they captured footage of the patients literally praying to a picture of Kim Jung Un thanking him for the surgery and promising to work harder in the salt mines.
Seriously, what is your motivation for posting this?
I hear in North Korea, they have no words for love or ice cream, and they make everyone take turns pushing the trains with their feet while overseers hit them with riding crops and yell “yabba dabba doo”.
Truly the most monstrous country
You seem to be suggesting that these examples were made up, but all were taken from primary sources below.
https://youtu.be/Ed4SeoQypy0
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xybxxr
The Guardian – Why do North Korean defector testimonies so often fall apart?
I doesn’t feel like you’ve taken a balanced look at all the primary sources available:
https://youtu.be/TUAfLbP-7Lo
Nice music lol
Thanks! :)
I get the distinct impression that all of these replies come from the same person running different accounts. I find it hard to believe that there are this many people replying within minutes to me on Lemmy with such strongly positive opinions about North Korea.
You find it hard to believe because in your usual echo chambers you can post unverifiable witness testimonies and have them uncritically pass as primary sources. This is a change of pace for you.
Do you bring these same crushing powers of observation to your understanding of Amerikkkan propaganda?
You’re in Lemmygrad. Not “on Lemmy”.
You silly Billy, Lemmy is an umbrella. You might have noticed that “Lemmy” Is in the name “Lemmygrad”
I think I’ve made my point. I won’t be replying further.
I think you know when you’re outclassed.
Feel free to check out some educational resources .
They were making a point that Lemmygrad, an explicitly Marxist-Leninist instance, is quite different than your home instance.
What imperial propaganda does to a MF
To comment on how paid propagandists have managed to deceive liberals like you into believing that North Korea is an absolute hellhole that lies about everything they say and does ridiculous things but the West totally doesn’t lie because they’re
whitefReE aNd DeMoCrAtIc!1!1!1!I lived there for several months while doing research.
The usual line in response to that is “obviously everything you saw was faked!”. I could almost understand that line of reasoning if I were a famous diplomat, but I was a no-name grad student. I seriously doubt I was of such interest to the government that they spent that much effort faking multiple towns, villages, and the entire university I was based out of for months.
I did not see “dead bodies discarded on the side of the road”. Yes, the Kim family is very well regarded considering everything they have done for the people. There’s far more hero worship of other countries’ leaders. Look at how much the British love their monarchy, people were on their knees crying at the recent funeral. The US literally carved busts of their founders INTO A MOUNTAIN. DPRK has extensive mining operations, it is a major industry, but salt is not one of their major mined resources, so you are definitely making that one up.
That’s not to say that there aren’t difficulties to life there, but much like Cuba the vast majority of economic issues that plague the people are the direct result of US-led sanctions. If the US was less dedicated to starving anyone who dared to oppose them, things would look much different.
Defectors famously lie. EIther you make patently absurd claims about the DPRK whenever called upon, or you get ostricized/blacklisted. There’s a reason some defectors realise their mistake and try to get back home. Do you honestly think that Kim personally executed musicians, or that people push trains to work every day (instead of…walking?).
Add to that why would they have salt mines when they have access to the sea lol
They’re not allowed in the sea because it didn’t obey when their glorious leader whipped it into submission. Sorry, actually, that might’ve been the English guy, Knut.
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Well they could mine incredible amount of salt from lib posts and tears.
Do you mind sharing what sort of research / studies you were doing? I wasn’t even aware that was a possibility.
I was writing about east asian security, particularly in regards to DPRK/South Korea. I was in grad school studying International Relations (specifically International Security) at the time. I am based out of Japan but I spent some time in SK and DPRK both for the research.
It was a while ago, so I am honestly not very confident that if I were writing the same paper today if I would be able to.
You reammy should view at least the first few minutes of this documentary: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BkUMZS-ZegM&feature=youtu.be I also used to believe the same as you. But defectors don’t tell the truth unfortunately
Are those people paid for that testimony?
Meanwhile in real life:
The Kims looking ripped AF 💪💪💪
What do people who escape western prisons have to say about their countries?