My son still needs to figure out how to drive straight lol but he’s rocking it at Paper Mario TTYD.

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      I don’t agree. Graphics on older consoles was designed to look good on CRT displays and can look really bad on newer ones. At best this is negligence.

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        Most emulators have video rendering filters for this kind of concern; they have for a long time. SNES9X from more than a decade ago already implemented.

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            Your MacBook display isn’t 4k, buddy.

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          SNES9X from more than a decade ago

          This emulator came out 26 years ago and IIRC, it had filters by the very early 2000s at the latest.

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        This is running Dolphin which can render 3D graphics at higher resolution. Then you can apply high res gesture packs. It ends up turning the game into a next gen game. That only really works with 3D games. snes and other 8-16 bit consoles still benefit from a CRT.

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        I’m surprised to see this so downvoted in this community. Maybe people missed the sarcasm in that last bit, lol

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          Considering some of the absolutely braindead honest takes on the Internet, it’s hard to tell if it’s sarcasm.

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        you are aware that the gamecube was one of the consoles with digital output right?

        unlike its sucessor wii which only used analog output, the gamecube was capable of outputting to modern tvs due to having the digital output.

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          Yeah, I remember the GameCube digital output sucking and going back to using the composite av cable, hence the post.

          Get out of here with the “are you aware” poindexter bs

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            which doesnt apply to all games on said device. an example is that viewers vastly prefer the cleaner footage that comes off of streams generated by dolphin using slippi over wathing the native crt footage. unlike a single individual (yourself) generalizong the preference, this is a real life scenario with thousands of viewers on the same content, many of which is also very used to the crt as many are also players.

            coming from a person who lugged a crt just for melee in college for years.

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    “Now that we’ve taken the picture for your Internet points dad, can I back to playing on the PlayStation now?”

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      Haha not really. He actually switched to Mario party. He’s also really into Paper Mario TTYD.

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    Genuine question because I like retro games, what is the point of 4k here? It’s blocky pixelated Mario kart, is there mods to update textures or something?

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      It just looks clean. Lowpoly games benefit from running at high resolutions to a surprising degree. The better the art, the more it benefits from being shown with as little obfuscation as possible. There are texture packs and shaders available for popular old games, but even without them, it’s often worth it to ramp up the resolution, even far beyond 4K. I’ve played some old games at ridiculous resolutions like 5k or more, eliminating even a hint of jagged edges. You can then add a touch of retro flair through scanline and bloom shaders.

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      If you play these old games in fullhd etc, it actually feels like the game you remember. If you play it in original resolution it’s nothing like that.

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        Agreed. That plus the fact that SD on an HD screen looks even worse. HD texture and up scaling really breathes a new life into the games.

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          It’s also because it’s missing that pattern CRT screens gave to old games

          Modern LCD’s don’t have a pattern like CRT

          I think their is an option for a simulated CRT pattern in some emulators but I’m not familiar with it

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      As others have mentioned, there are two schools of thought.

      Crisp 4K rendering, no jagged lines, higher details added in textures, etc

      Or emulating the look of a CRT by using high density displays to create the same look.

      https://youtu.be/-B5ebucZ69s?si=0lDLAWdMlN77VQen goes into it a bit. This shows off a device for actual consoles. But the same principal applies when doing it in software for emulators.

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      The textures themselves remain at their original resolution. But anything that was 3d rendered in the original console (like the karts and characters in Mario kart) will now have crisp lines. Additionally many emulators will support some form of texture scaling to make the original low texture stuff look marginally better. On a system like N64 it’s a toss up on looking significantly better. But on a PS3 emulator for example, since many environments are rendered in 3d, it’s a considerable improvement

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      Yea. There are Hd textures made by fans. And the 3D is generated in 4K. No pixels in sight!!!

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        It looks absolutely stunning in 4K no pixels in sight with HD texture packs and 4K 3D renders. Now for older gen’s like SNES your CRT is a definite win.

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    Apple doesn’t even make a 4k macbook…

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      There’s a 4K tv right above. We actually connected the computer to it not long after the photo.

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      Things still look better at 4k displayed on a 1440p screen than they do at native 1440p. If you have the power excess, why not?

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    I have a 2TB ssd on my PC that is almost full with all kinds of retro games. All the way up to the PS3. It’s crazy how good these games look on my 4k monitor compared to those tube TV’s I played those games on back in the day. Lol

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        And old games are actually a lot more fun than a lot of the new ones. I haven’t played a new title for a long time. Still going through my retro collection. 😁

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          The only thing is some old gave have very wonky camera movements and controls especially for first person like 007. Some have custom controls hacks too.

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    Adding to this you can use Playstation and other controllers with Nintendont. Pretty useful if you have a Wii and want to play GameCube games but don’t have the controllers.

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      Yep. And actually the DualShock 4 controller can send motion data so you could use it as a very wonky looking Wii controller. I tried it briefly on MarioKart Wii.

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    I played through several GameCube titles using the original Wii along with the Wii2HDMI dongle. I thought the games still looked great even on HD televisions. Burnout 2 is still awesome.

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        I have a foldable phone (Samsung Z Fold 3), which unironically works out perfectly for DS and 2DS games. The only thing missing is the 3D.