I’m switching to AV1. But I’ve also been following its progress for years and understand the benefits and drawbacks. I wouldn’t recommend blindly jumping in if you’re new.
Eh, Chromecast has AV1 and so do some smart TVs already. If that is your primary watching platform, encode away in AV1 and get an Arc A380 for the rest. It will also massively decrease encoding times.
In my experience the saving over h265 is still consistent and given that hardware h265 is less common that av1 on new devices, from h264 there is no need to go h265 but directly to av1 is better if you need to do the job.
A lot of newer Android-TV-Settop-Boxes are ready for AV1, for example products from Orbsmart.de like my Orbsmart S87L.
On that box is Kodi preinstalled and you can install everything from android-stores, also the Jellybin-client.
Don’t forget: Jellybin is a very good open-source-software, but a client-server-system. So you need Hardware for the server-software.
You also need hardware behind the client, for it being able to do hardware decoding. Unless you want the server to constantly transcode everything you watch, for all phones and PC clients…
My point is that H264 is well supported everywhere so I personally am in no hurry to switch. Non of my devices support AV1 so it is a waste of my time for the most part.
What’s worse is when I first started a bunch of people recommended AV1 which lead to Jellyfin not working.
And you’re the norm, not the exception. Too many people choose to evangelize instead of looking at real-world use cases for the majority. I used to use Nvidia boxes around the house with Kodi. It worked but my wife and kids sure thought it was a pain in the rear often enough that it made it a pain for me too.
@clemensg@possiblylinux127@PM_Your_Nudes_Please@Bluefalcon A lot of Android TV boxes also come with malware pre-installed. I am not familiar with any particular box by name, but it’s not a small percentage of them. I’d exercise caution with using anything pre-installed.
Worth noting that AV1 is less compatible with older devices. My old Samsung TV, for instance, refuses to play them. It can’t DirectPlay AV1, so the server tries to transcode. But even when transcoding, the stream still fails. If you have an older smart TV, you may want to stick with h264 for compatibility reasons.
Also of you can stand the quality check out DVDs in charity shops or second hand online (Ebay etc). (And give away / resell after you made a “backup”.)
To keep a copy of the media in Jellyfin you need to have a physical copy with the server. You also probably shouldn’t share it with friends unless you are living together.
You may need to keep the physical copy for it to be legal or moral according to your own ethics but from a purely technical standpoint there is absolutely no need.
Yeah, fair, but depending on where you are you’re already in illegal territory if you’re circumventing DRM on the discs (e. g. Germany, I think).
(And how likely is it that I 1. get busted for pirating when not torrenting/downloading and 2. will make the copyright trolls believe me that I actually legally bought this movie at a charity shop five years ago? Has that ever hapenend?)
When looking for media online, you pretty much just need a good adblocker and the sense not to run any random executables.
The media files themselves are very unlikely to have malware attached. They would need to exploit a bug in the specific video player you are using and then exploit another bug in your OS to get admin privileges before doing any real damage. It’s pretty much just theoretical. Keep your stuff up to date and don’t worry about it.
That doesn’t really resolve the problem of is the media safe.
From a cybersecurity standpoint you should be validating the mime type of the media at a minimum (The actual magic number, not the extension). And running it through ClamAV as well, ideally, before it’s released to your media library.
Anyone have a good source that explains how to setup and find safe media. Computer literacy is not my strong point.
Buy Blurays and rip them to your machine. From there copy them into Jellyfin.
You will need a Bluray reader, Handbrake and MakeMKV
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In this order:
#Film #Movie #rip #Bluray #MKV #MakeMKV #Handbrake
Do not use AV1 or at least don’t use it as of now as it isn’t supported my most devices. I think there is exactly one phone that supports it as of now
I’m switching to AV1. But I’ve also been following its progress for years and understand the benefits and drawbacks. I wouldn’t recommend blindly jumping in if you’re new.
Eh, Chromecast has AV1 and so do some smart TVs already. If that is your primary watching platform, encode away in AV1 and get an Arc A380 for the rest. It will also massively decrease encoding times.
I know the nVidia Shield doesn’t have it, and I’m not replacing that any time soon.
Untrue, all my devices support av1 at this point, so that’s only your mileage.
I am happy with av1 and its awesome space savings over h264.
Over h264 sure, but h265? Hardly worth it for me.
In my experience the saving over h265 is still consistent and given that hardware h265 is less common that av1 on new devices, from h264 there is no need to go h265 but directly to av1 is better if you need to do the job.
Keep h264 otherwise.
I’m not sure what devices you have but if they were made before 2023 you likely are using software decoding.
av1 is going to be super niche and never fully adopted, just like ogg was for audio. h264/265 will be the main thing going for years and is just fine.
Are you aware that all android devices with A14 have av1 support as a requirement?
Also Apple is adding that, and amazon sticks already support av1 natively.
Said that, indeed h264 is and will be the safest and most supported choice for a very long time.
As 265 goes, not so sure.
I doubt it. In a decade its probably going to be the standard. It just takes time for devices to support it.
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@PM_Your_Nudes_Please
@Bluefalcon
A lot of newer Android-TV-Settop-Boxes are ready for AV1, for example products from Orbsmart.de like my Orbsmart S87L.
On that box is Kodi preinstalled and you can install everything from android-stores, also the Jellybin-client.
Don’t forget: Jellybin is a very good open-source-software, but a client-server-system. So you need Hardware for the server-software.
#Jellyfin #Kodi #Orbsmart #AndroidTV #Settopbox #AV1
You also need hardware behind the client, for it being able to do hardware decoding. Unless you want the server to constantly transcode everything you watch, for all phones and PC clients…
*Jellyfin
My point is that H264 is well supported everywhere so I personally am in no hurry to switch. Non of my devices support AV1 so it is a waste of my time for the most part.
What’s worse is when I first started a bunch of people recommended AV1 which lead to Jellyfin not working.
And you’re the norm, not the exception. Too many people choose to evangelize instead of looking at real-world use cases for the majority. I used to use Nvidia boxes around the house with Kodi. It worked but my wife and kids sure thought it was a pain in the rear often enough that it made it a pain for me too.
@clemensg @possiblylinux127 @PM_Your_Nudes_Please @Bluefalcon A lot of Android TV boxes also come with malware pre-installed. I am not familiar with any particular box by name, but it’s not a small percentage of them. I’d exercise caution with using anything pre-installed.
You don’t necessarily need to shrink them, but you can.
You should as storage is expensive and is slows down performance to do more reads.
Worth noting that AV1 is less compatible with older devices. My old Samsung TV, for instance, refuses to play them. It can’t DirectPlay AV1, so the server tries to transcode. But even when transcoding, the stream still fails. If you have an older smart TV, you may want to stick with h264 for compatibility reasons.
Also of you can stand the quality check out DVDs in charity shops or second hand online (Ebay etc). (And give away / resell after you made a “backup”.)
To keep a copy of the media in Jellyfin you need to have a physical copy with the server. You also probably shouldn’t share it with friends unless you are living together.
You may need to keep the physical copy for it to be legal or moral according to your own ethics but from a purely technical standpoint there is absolutely no need.
Yeah, fair, but depending on where you are you’re already in illegal territory if you’re circumventing DRM on the discs (e. g. Germany, I think).
(And how likely is it that I 1. get busted for pirating when not torrenting/downloading and 2. will make the copyright trolls believe me that I actually legally bought this movie at a charity shop five years ago? Has that ever hapenend?)
My technical needs are heavily dictated by legal obligations
What do you mean by “safe media”?
I’m guessing he means how to sail the high seas without getting scurvy if you know what I mean
Drink lots of water and eat your fruits and veggies of course!
Vitamin Sea ^I’ll see myself out^
Where I don’t have to throw my PC out afterwards due to virus and malware.
When looking for media online, you pretty much just need a good adblocker and the sense not to run any random executables.
The media files themselves are very unlikely to have malware attached. They would need to exploit a bug in the specific video player you are using and then exploit another bug in your OS to get admin privileges before doing any real damage. It’s pretty much just theoretical. Keep your stuff up to date and don’t worry about it.
It’s worth mentioning that the biggest concern, depending on your country, is getting in trouble with your ISP. That’s where a VPN comes to play.
Only if you torrent. Newsgroups still work wonders!
The good old Arr Stack is worth looking into.
Radarr (movies), Sonarr (TV), Prowlarr (for finding things), Bazarr (if you’re in the subtitles gang, but most newer rips already contain it), VPN (to keep out nosey lawyers).
Only the VPN costs money, and it may be optional depending on where you are.
That doesn’t really resolve the problem of is the media safe.
From a cybersecurity standpoint you should be validating the mime type of the media at a minimum (The actual magic number, not the extension). And running it through ClamAV as well, ideally, before it’s released to your media library.
You may be better off using streamio, torrentio (a plugin for streamio,) and real-debrid.
It’s a bit more straight forward and doesn’t involve all the setup of downloading, organizing, and hosting the media.