The Florida State Senate passed a bill Tuesday that would prohibit local agencies from implementing heat protections for workers. The GOP-controlled Senate voted 28-11 to pass the bill, which would…
“Supporters of the bill say it will establish uniform regulations instead of having inconsistent rules across the state, NBC News first reported.”
I agree with this. There’s shouldn’t be a dozen different water break policies across a state. Especially when it effects a lot of people in lawn care and construction and road work that go all over the place for jobs. There should only be one good set of regulations for breaks and temp and humidity and what have you that blanket covers the state. There isn’t any good reason that every city or county should each have their own. The state needs to make a good one.
Sure, but there aren’t any other rules, so what you get is employers putting people in danger:
Florida employers would be required to follow general rules set by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, which has not yet issued standards for dangerously high temperatures, NBC News noted.
Or as the first manager of my last job said “I don’t have to give you SHIT except 20 minutes for lunch, and ONLY if your ass is here for 8 hours or more”
If they can get away with giving you nothing, then nothing is what you will get.
What do you think happens when a city opts to make a really shitty heat policy because “fuck em”, then a company works someone to death in the heat and their family has issues even suing or getting much from the company because instead of “our company policy on weather was garbage and not good enough” it’s a case of “we were following the cities safety protocols”.
The state needs to make a good policy for it. Not let dozens of different ones, or choosing to not have one at all, happen.
The state needs to make a good policy for it. Not let dozens of different ones, or choosing to not have one at all, happen.
What actually happened is: the ones that chose to have a policy are now forbidden from having a policy.
There’s still no policy, for anyone, anywhere in the state. How is this not the worst possible outcome? Yeah yeah yeah, the state should have a state-wide policy, but as of this moment, they do not. And if they really wanted to have one, banning local policies was completely unecessary.
We just went from piecemeal protection to none.
Please stop excusing that based on what you’d like to happen, next. Our reality and your desires are not equally real.
In true ex-Reddit fashion I didn’t read the article, but what I see here is only preventing locales from creating their own worker safety rules. If this is a two-parter establishing consistent rules across the state, people would be all for it. However it’s not. It’s only negative. It’s only consolidation of power without implementing that good policy. It’s only preventing other layers of government from improving worker safety
Is that what happens, though? Is it? You should check. Because otherwise you’d be buying the excuses that conservatives make for whatever cruel bullshit they want to force on poor workers they view as lesser human beings.
“Supporters of the bill say it will establish uniform regulations instead of having inconsistent rules across the state, NBC News first reported.”
I agree with this. There’s shouldn’t be a dozen different water break policies across a state. Especially when it effects a lot of people in lawn care and construction and road work that go all over the place for jobs. There should only be one good set of regulations for breaks and temp and humidity and what have you that blanket covers the state. There isn’t any good reason that every city or county should each have their own. The state needs to make a good one.
Sure, but there aren’t any other rules, so what you get is employers putting people in danger:
Which is the whole point of this.
Or as the first manager of my last job said “I don’t have to give you SHIT except 20 minutes for lunch, and ONLY if your ass is here for 8 hours or more”
If they can get away with giving you nothing, then nothing is what you will get.
Hence when I said the state should make a set of good ones. It shouldn’t be a county to county and city to city issue.
Then, if you did vote to to make it one, what of all the cities that don’t make a policy? Or make a shitty one?
One easy option would be: we have a minimum standard, and people can choose something stricter if local conditions warrant.
The state and the federal government don’t have one. This is actually to prevent any protections from being put in place at all.
Stop it.
Stop pretending this is anything other than an attack on workers, there’s no excuse
What do you think happens when a city opts to make a really shitty heat policy because “fuck em”, then a company works someone to death in the heat and their family has issues even suing or getting much from the company because instead of “our company policy on weather was garbage and not good enough” it’s a case of “we were following the cities safety protocols”.
The state needs to make a good policy for it. Not let dozens of different ones, or choosing to not have one at all, happen.
What actually happened is: the ones that chose to have a policy are now forbidden from having a policy.
There’s still no policy, for anyone, anywhere in the state. How is this not the worst possible outcome? Yeah yeah yeah, the state should have a state-wide policy, but as of this moment, they do not. And if they really wanted to have one, banning local policies was completely unecessary.
We just went from piecemeal protection to none.
Please stop excusing that based on what you’d like to happen, next. Our reality and your desires are not equally real.
Great! But are they?
In true ex-Reddit fashion I didn’t read the article, but what I see here is only preventing locales from creating their own worker safety rules. If this is a two-parter establishing consistent rules across the state, people would be all for it. However it’s not. It’s only negative. It’s only consolidation of power without implementing that good policy. It’s only preventing other layers of government from improving worker safety
Is that what happens, though? Is it? You should check. Because otherwise you’d be buying the excuses that conservatives make for whatever cruel bullshit they want to force on poor workers they view as lesser human beings.
You think all those republican controlled cities and towns are gonna make or create good policies?
You think they’ll have good policies imposed on them, now?
You think preventing democratic cities from being more protective is helpful, in any way, toward ensuring sufficient protection?