Turns out I was far from the only one who watched that show and felt like firing up Fallout 4 again, with mods of course 😄

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    A little texture replacement mod I made in 2018 for Fallout 3 got a lot of downloads all of a sudden. Got a mail I thought was spam at first saying “Many people are downloading your mods and your efforts have been recognised with a free Nexus Mods Premium reward.” Like wtf is going on

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    I’m still conflicted if it’s a good or a bad thing that the show is a hit. On the one hand, it’s nice that people are discovering the great storytelling and adventure that Fallout has to offer.

    On the other hand, newcomers tend to… totally ruin the thing you’ve loved for decades. Especially if companies start chasing that group. So let’s all hope this doesn’t lead to watered down cash grabs, but instead lights a fire under development of good new proper Fallout titles. We’re looooong overdue.

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      On the other hand, newcomers tend to… totally ruin the thing you’ve loved for decades.

      This is one of the most gatekeeping thing I’ve heard in a while. You don’t want new people to discover something you like because they might like it differently.

      So let’s all hope this doesn’t lead to watered down cash grabs

      You mean more than the mobile game and Fallout 76?

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        But it’s entirely true, popularity gives a creator way more leeway to get worse because the LCD doesn’t give a shit. Not to mention the suits that are attracted to popularity, they take pleasure in ruining things. Then there is the fact that too many normies will ruin whatever culture exists besides the direct product.

        Not that it matters for Bethesda, pretty sure they literally couldn’t get worse at this point without falling through completely. They are the suits that ruined lefey’s work!

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        I honestly don’t mind people discovering Fallout. Heck, I’ve bought and lent copies to people to get them interested in it.

        But I’ve also been in gaming since the late ‘80’s, and I’ve seen franchises ruined because developers chased the mass market instead of sticking to what made their games popular in the first place.

        People came to Call of Duty for tight, sweet multiplayer matches with a military aesthetic.

        Nowadays it’s got silly battle royale modes which let you play as Snoop-Dogg, The Terminator or a Warhammer 40K character. It looks nothing like what the original games were. And as a result, the playerbase has declined and shifted towards casual.

        Battlefield is a shell of its former self after they moved away from what made it good. Need for Speed games also suck because they chased the Fast and the Furious trend. Flight Simulator has become too mainstream leading to quality decline because developers chase casual players. And there’s numerous other examples of games moving towards a more casual, wider base. Usually because newcomers think the old gameplay is ‘boring’ or ‘too difficult’. Go talk to some Diablo veterans about their thoughts on IV…

        And yes, as someone who’s been with Fallout since 1: 76 should never have been made. Fallout is a single player, story driven experience. And it should stay that way. The mobile game… I’d rather they put that effort into making a proper game.

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      Fallouts always been one of those games that’s broken into the mainstream tho, I’d put it up there with COD and FIFA tbh…

      This isn’t some sort of niche game that’s suddenly getting mainstream attention, if anything it’s always been a game for “casuals” (no offence intended, just can’t think of a better way to say it).

      I’d say that the market being brought in is the one that Bethesda was aiming for since at least Fallout 4.

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      Eh, I’m just glad they didn’t butcher it. We should be happy that other people have found something nice

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        Eh, I’m just glad they didn’t butcher it

        Me too. I honestly expected them to give it the full Uwe Boll treatment (as in butcher it beyond recognition) and even my “pie i n the sky never gonna happen” hopes I’d dialed all the way down to it just being “pretty good”.

        Turns out that it’s fucking magnificent! Probably the best sci-fi show since 3 Body Problem if not Westworld IMO!

        So it’s not ONLY with ulterior motives that I recommend that anyone currently trying to use Nexus Mods take a break to watch or rewatch the show, whether on Prime or through the High Seas 😉😁

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      I couldn’t agree more if I tried! Other than MAYBE slightly exaggerating the very real issue of newcomers ruining established stuff, you’re pretty much spot on about all of it IMO.

      I’m just crossing everything but The Streams that, after Nexus hopefully get sorted soon, we’ll see all the positive possible effects you mention and little to none of the negative ones 😁🤞🤞🤞

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        What’s Fallout 76? The last title we got was Fallout 4 ;-)

        Seriously though, I tried it twice after I got it for free. Put about 20 hours into it and hated most of them. Supposedly it’s ‘better’ these days, but I’d rather play F4 again…

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      They won’t. They got shown up by New Vegas and even had that stupid bonus scheme to cheat Obsidian out of pay. Neither company would agree to do that again.

      Also someone would have to use Bethesda’s ass engine yet again and no one wants those ugly models and awful performance.

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        Yeah that engine is hot garbage in the middle of July. Can’t even handle flying a space ship from one planet to another. Even Garry’s mod can do that.

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    I don’t know why, maybw subcounciously I had seen a fallout mention somewhere - but I picked up and started playing fallout 4 again at the end of march, only to notice the trailer afterwards 💀

    really ain’t immune to propaganda. welp, time to replay fallout 2~

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      Well sometimes propaganda can be helpful lol, it’s not like either of us is gonna suffer by replaying games we love 😉

      Of course, if it had made us BUY them as intended and we didn’t like them, that’s another thing entirely 😁

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        haha, Fallout 4 is the reason I stopped pre-ordering games 🙈 Ain’t no way I wanna go for stuff like that again

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          It’s the last one I ever pre-ordered too tbh lol. Got a nifty Vault Boy figurine (that I of course lost along the way), but otherwise wasn’t worth it.

          That being what it is though, it’s been called “not a very Fallout game but still a good game” and I’d tend to agree once you mod it to your liking 😁

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            Haha, same - got the figure and a plastic pip boy xD

            it’s a decent game with mods yes, and nowadays it’s a good time 🥰 once you have the right amount of mods and stability in the ol gamebryo engine

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    Oh yeah, that reminds me I wanted to try out A Tale of Two Wastelands. And I see there’s a lot of mods bringing textures, models and even animations from Fallout 4 to NV and 3? That could make for a great experience

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      Yeah, I literally can’t recommend TTW enough. It’s by far the best way to experience both NV and especially 3 IMO.

      It’s kinda a bitch to set up IMO but you only have to do that once and it’s SO fucking worth it!

      As for the texture, model and animation mods, I bet there’s TTW compatibles versions of most if not all of the best ones.

      For anyone interested, here’s the installation instructions

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        As soon as its done easily on the steam deck I’m all for it. I just cba to use a real pc, especially one with windows after being spoiled so much with hand helds.

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      My only problem with ToTW is that I’m burned out on FO3 or NV by the time I can move between them. Otherwise, it’s amazing

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    I’m just upset that this might impact the SSE Nexus for a bit. Fallout games have great mods, but only Minecraft has a modding community that competes with Skyrim’s. There are still game changing mods released every year. There are hundreds of hours of high-quality, voice acted expansions that fit in with the original game. I’ve never felt like other Bethesda games had as much content.

    Modded Skyrim also looks the best visually out of any other modded Bethesda game. Even Fallout 4 doesn’t reach the same level.

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        What separates Doom or Half Life mods from Skyrim and Minecraft mods in my mind is that Doom and Half Life mods are mostly new levels that aren’t connected to the original game. Mods for open world games change the original experience, while mods for linear shooters create new experiences. They’re both modding communities, but they aren’t that comparable in their focus.

        There are Half Life mods that change the original campaign and there are Skyrim mods that are disconnected from the original game, but they’re not where most of the community focuses their energy or what most people play.

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      Does Skyrim have modpacks or do you have to install each mod separately? If separately, then nothing compares to modding in Minecraft. All The Mods 9 (ATM9) has 400 mods that work with zero tinkering required by the player.

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        Skyrim and Fallout games do! Nexus and Wabbajack mod lists make it easy to install pre-made collections if you’re not into tinkering. I like tinkering personally, as there are robust tools for resolving most conflicts efficiently. My last modlist was around 600 mods, and many custom lists have more than 1500.

        With Skyrim, I would install a ton of mods and be like “Wow, I made the perfect version of this game. I don’t know how my next load order can top that.” Then I’d discover game changing gems I hadn’t heard of before; get excited as new mods that massively improve the experience get released. The next playthrough would be better, because I know what I like and rarely install mods I end up regretting.

        Part of what makes Skyrim modding so fun for me is making my own modlist. Every mod I install was chosen by me, and over time I’ve figured out what mods I would and wouldn’t like. It’s so fun and easy to make a custom load order that some people never get very far into a game before restarting to change things. I actually do manage to finish the game, finishing every quest and exploring every mod to its fullest. I rarely experience save corruption or game breaking bugs because I learned how to avoid mods that are unstable or poorly made. I figured out how to make a stable modlist, as well as one I actually enjoy playing.

        Skyrim gets criticized for being based on character rather than player progression. Your character gets better, but you don’t get better. Modding changed that, but not exactly by making me more skilled at playing. Instead, I’m better at getting fun out of the game. The main fail state is getting bored, not dying to enemies. Having fun is what I’ve actually gotten good at.

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        Nexus has collections that function similarly. There are also external self-installing packs like Nolvus (contains 2.2k mods and 400GB)

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          Nolvus (contains 2.2k mods and 400GB)

          uh, wow! I don’t think my laptop could handle that!!

          Obviously, you also need a fresh and legal copy of Skyrim Anniversary Edition or Skyrim Special Edition with the Anniversary Upgrade f

          Alas, I only have the Special Edition and don’t feel like giving Todd Howard $19.99 more. ;)

          But thanks for the info! Todd Howard can suck it. :D

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            Oh yeah, that’s completely fair. More just using it as an example that both nexus collection and non-collection packs exist. Nolvus was just the first that sprang to mind for the latter category because of how nuts the requirements are.

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    I gave up on installing mods because it isn’t straight forward. Minecraft has gotten so nice with Modpacks that JUST WORK™. 400+ mods at the click of a button in multiple different clients.