• CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works
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    8 months ago

    Seriously wtf is up Nintendo’s ass lately. They’ve always been litigious but the last few years have been pretty extreme.

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        The fact that DMCA requests don’t have to be signed with an asymmetric key that lets you validate the company that sent it was actually behind the request is some of the dumbest shit.

        We’ve known how to use certs online forever. Certainly well before the DMCA. Why the fuck wasn’t that a provision?

        Oh right because our politicians are tech illiterate apes.

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        Or overcompensation since they acted on emulators and found out there’s more to this? Someone’s started another useless crusade.

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          I fear they’re not going to stop here either. Soon we’ll read news about Minecraft mods and other fan content as well. Backup everything.

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          The emulator is more likely that the Switch 2 was supposed to be released this year and ended up getting pushed to next year. This means they have to support the Switch fully for another year and it’s a harder sell when it’s easy for customers to make a choice between:

          • A Switch and 3ish games

          Or

          • A Steam Deck that can play all the Switch games for free

          When these are both the same price. The fact that instructions were easy to find and follow didn’t help.

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      They’re like Japanese Disney. They’re nothing without their IP and they know it.

      They also know that the only reason they have DK as a character is because Universal dropped the ball in protecting their IP. If they let Garry’s Mod casually have a “Mario” character in it, it dilutes their ability to legally go after some other studio who straight up makes an unofficial Mario game.

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      It started after Satoru Iwata’s death in 2015. He was a notorious true gamer/engineer before CEO and his vision was always long-term. The two who have replaced him since have decidedly chosen the short-term route for fast profit vs long term consumer binding.

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      8 months ago

      I wonder if there being an R4 style cart released recently for the switch has lit a fire under their arses

      Maybe they expanded their legal department recently

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    8 months ago

    How efficient is it to antagonize people that are actively promoting your own content for free on other platforms? Does this actually work for Nintendo?

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      I guess they antagonize anyone that has moderate exposure using their IP

      In some countries copyright law says that if you let people use your copyrighted material with little to no impediment then you cannot suddenly request whoever is using your material to stop

      Let’s say that Nintendo allows fans to make fan made Mario games for 5 years. Then they suddenly sue everyone and say “hey you have to pay for copyright or shutdown”. A judge can decide that since they didn’t enforce their copyright for some time they cannot sue people that are using their IP.

      From a legal perspective the act of policing your own copyrighted material is the company’s responsibility. This law prevents companies from relaxing their copyright claims for years (essentially allowing people to use it) and then suing everyone for using their IP. In other words Just let everyone use it, then sue them. The law is there to prevent that

      Nintendo is likely super strict because “let people use your copyrighted material with little to no impediment” has room for interpretation in a court room. So they go to the conservative side and shut down everyone. Also consider that they’re right next to China. The piracy capital of the world. It’s not a surprise they’re scared about their copyright.

      I’m not saying that what they’re doing is right. It’s not. But I see where it comes from.

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      Nintendo is a “family friendly” brand before all else and really only cares about the experience of children playing their games and adults buying their games for children to play. They count on their core IPs to draw in those kids as adults, but don’t put much effort in catering to an adult audience. They put more effort in with the Switch (game store with more adult oriented games), but still minimal effort - their original properties are family friendly.

      They see other people using their IP as diluting their brand value rather than promoting it. They think their characters are what makes people nostalgic for their games and drives brand value. So they want you to only be able to see your “favorite Nintendo characters” from Nintendo official sources and have complete control over that experience.

      I think they’re wrong about most of that. The characters are, for the most part, pretty generic and simple. What people like about Nintendo is that the games are accessible, they played when they were kids, and they were often introduced to those games by parents or older siblings. There’s a social context to Nintendo games that is unique and nostalgic. They’re often some of the first games you play as a kid, and they’re the first games you think of when you want to introduce your own kids/nieces & nephews, etc. to gaming. I don’t think that unofficial Super Smash Bros tournaments or Gary’s Mod having fan-made Mario models in it dilutes that in the slightest but Nintendo does drive away adults who are the primary drivers of the Nintendo brand’s popularity (as they are the purchasers). Once it’s these young adults’ turn to share Nintendo games with the next generation, I think Nintendo’s litigiousness will hurt them because it will have driven many of these people away.

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    8 months ago

    Nintendont,
    the lawsuit company that makes games on the side, strikes again…

    We’re well beyond the point by now of me ever buying anything from them again.
    I won’t support such behavior of any company.

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    I heard if you go into your bathroom and turn off the lights. Then close your eyes and spin around three times well saying “Nintendo, Nintendo, Nintendo!”

    It will summon their lawyers and they will drag you to court through your bathroom mirror for violating copyright.

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    Nintendo have permanently lost a customer in me because of their recent behaviour.

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      Honestly, unless you’re a young teen or schoolkid, they don’t put out much content worth it anyway. Unless you consider endless variations on Mario innovative.

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        I might get a switch 2 only after it’s hackable. I thought of doing it with the switch but it seemed too complex for me. At this point I’m really fed up with Nintendo’s anti consumer bs. And I’m not just referring to the copyright takedowns and closure yuzu but things like the Mario all stars collection which they then created artificial scarcity around and the Zelda anniversary where they release a HD remaster of skyward sword which is seen as the weakest of the series. I do enjoy the odd Nintendo game but I’ve had my switch since the year after it came out and I’ve only beaten 4-5 games on it and I’ve only 10-20 at most on it and those are mostly indies.

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      Recent? They’ve been pulling bullshit moves like this since the 80s, when they successfully killed off the game rental market in Japan. To this day you still can’t rent games in that country.

      This is why it’s always morally correct to pirate Nintendo games, and thankfully Nintendo consoles have had a history of being among the easiest to emulate, especially the N64, Wii, and Switch. All three of those systems had working emulators while the consoles themselves were still in their peak years.

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        Another year or two…

        Problem is that Nintendo for all their faults still make GREAT games for kids. And if adult pc gamers think they have it bad they should have a look at the predatory shitshow that is tablet games for the 5 and under market… its properly fucking ridiculous. At least Nintendo has the common decency to give me an amazing and full game for its eyewatering prices.

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          the indie space still has a ton of stuff. you lose the benefit of always having accessibility features and easy ui navigation depending on the game (although a ton of indie games have better modding and accessibility support than a lot of high budget games as of recently, just in case they come to be interested), but you still get to see a ton of different stuff.

          • Celeste
          • OneShot
          • Rythm Doctor
          • Terraria (has android ver.)
          • A Dance Of Fire And Ice (has android ver.)
          • MiniMetro (has android ver.)
          • ShatteredPixelDungeon (has android ver.)
          • StuntRally
          • Mindustry (has android ver.)
          • HyperRogue (has android ver.)
          • SuperMeatBoy
          • Don’t Starve
          • Undertale/Deltarune (have unofficial android ver.)
          • Sky Rogue
          • SuperTuxKart (has android ver.)

          most of these without coming close to Nintendo’s approach to fan works, so i’d say you’re not going to lose much if you know the right places.

          if you want games for Android, Mitch is a third-party access to itch.io, a game store where you can by the game and get the game straight into a zip file or what-have-you. no DRM, no questions asked. about half the games i mentioned are in there without the predatory behavior most of the time.

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            How many of those games are suitable for kids 5 and under really…?

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              i’d probably pick MiniMetro and simple rythm games like ADOFAI or Rythm Doctor to begin with, simple shapes and an obvious thing to learn to do.

              MineTest (has android ver.) and StuntRally are pretty close to reach if you’re willing to be patient and teach them to explore an open space on their own or of their own (one is basically a sandbox engine like Garry’s Mod, the other has a map editor alongside the several open maps). takes a while to understand the UI of each but it’s possible to use.

              Celeste is notoriously difficult regardless of age, as a platformer about climbing a mountain, but i’m sure they can grasp it (no pun intended).

              non-game programs are also an option. i remember having my mom teach me to use MSPowerPoint which made me break and build a ton of things later on by the time i was 7, it was a mess, but i made that mess :3
              try an art program like Pencil2D, Krita or InkScape, maybe something unrelated like LibreOffice Impress or KDE Marble, or a music program like MilkyTracker (has android ver.) and take your time to teach them to make a tune or a flipbook or navigate a map, i’m sure they’ll have fun with something like it too.

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    Well it’s time for the broken clock to be right for once. Gmod is not a safe place for kids and it absolutely should not have kids content on it.

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      Fixed:

      Gmod is not a safe place for kids and it absolutely should not have kids content on it.

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      Why shouldn’t children use gmod? Are adults not allowed to enjoy Nintendo?

      Your opinions are weird.

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        Why shouldn’t children use gmod?

        You press the server list and the first thing you see is just a massive list of Nazi Germany RP going by as many names as you can think of. You keep scrolling down looking for a normal sever and learn every possible way to code “you play as the Nazis in this server” as you go.

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          Oh damn, I haven’t played in a long time. That’s a genuinely unusual thing and kids probably shouldn’t be a part of that.

          I was a kid playing gmod but I just got into programming because of it lol

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            Yeah it’s absolutely gone to shit. I remember learning lua playing back then, pretty good language.