Dear @firefox : Please stop saving images as webp when I drag them out of the browser. Forever stop that. Even if they are webp originally, just give me a setting to auto-convert them to JPEG. When I get a webp file the first thing I have to do is convert it manually if I’m going to do *anything* with it.

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    3 months ago

    Implicitly converting anything anywhere is always a bad idea, especially when it can’t be done in a lossless way.

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      There could be an option to auto convert to PNG. I wouldn’t want anything auto converted to a lossy format like JPEG.

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      3 months ago

      Did they intend to tag an official Firefox account or something? I’m not sure how this works on the Mastadon side of things.

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        Mastodon’s UI for groups is terrible. This community is indistinguishable from an account named “@Firefox” with thousands of followers unless you open its page and notice it says “Group” and understand what that means.

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    When I save an image, I want the exact same binary 1:1, not a recompressed one or whatever, I want the original picture, be it jpeg/png/webp, every graphics program can open webp, nothing wrong with it.

    At least if you hate webp, convert them to png, but not jpeg…

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      Too bad so many platforms are not compatible with it. I am constantly having to convert the image type to post the image.

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        I am constantly having to convert the image type to post the image.

        Try changing the file extension. Often the extension is checked but not if the file format matches the extension. All browsers read WebP just fine.

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      Not really. It is better than shitty JPEG encoders but not really much better than good ones. It’s lossless was fairly good but still barely worth it. Really we should chuck it for JPEG XL but Google is strong-arming it for unknown reasons.

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      3 months ago

      Exactly, great quality and small file sizes. Perfect to reduce web bloat, or loading times when using things like FoundryVTT

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      Sounds more like a problem with their intended usage pipeline, like an image viewer or word processing app problem.

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    WebP images are not bad. Not great, but not bad. The lossless mode is quite good. It is on the software you use to support WebP.

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    It’s not really Firefox’s task or problem to convert files from one format to the other, why would it be?

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      Why is it that the url ends in .JPG but when I right click and save image I can only save it as a .webp?

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        Some CDNs like Akamai and Cloudflare have options to optimize images. We use the Akamai one where I work. It means our creative teams, customers, etc. don’t need to worry too much about whether an image is properly optimized when they upload it. Akamai will, behind the scenes optimize the quality, color palette, and image type (jpg, web, png, etc) and create a number of different versions of the images. Then when a client requests the image Akamai looks at the client device (mobile vs desktop, screen resolution, browser version, etc) and serves the copy of the image that’s best optimized for that device.

        So even if the URL ends with .jpg you might be sent a .webp. If you use the browsers developer tool to inspect the response headers you’ll likely see the Content-Type header says it’s .webp as well.

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      Shouldn’t we strive for webp compatibility in more applications so it can be viewed readily and easily?

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        I mean Gwenview, GIMP and tons of other apps support it. I dont know an app that doesnt support it actually

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            Hm, not sure if Inkscape is meant for that?

            Edit: never mind, it has a purpose and should actually support webp

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              You should be able to import raster images in Inkscape for tracing or reference purposes

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              I don’t care if it was meant for it, it is the best tool I’ve found so far for what I want to do: put text over an image to create a custom gift certificate.

              It works perfectly for what I want to do with it, except it doesn’t understand .webp. It seemed like it is implemented, but didn’t work. It does take .jpg.

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                It would be great if GIMP, Inkscape, Firefox, Krita, Okular, Loupe, etc. could just use the same libraries on the system.

                Viewing app specific stuff belongs to the apps, but why the hell does every program need its own webp renderer?

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      Why? PNG is good enough today, so everything moving to jxl isn’t particularly urgent for me. AVIF is probably a better option in terms of platform support vs jxl.

      But yeah, when it’s ubiquitous, it’ll be cool I guess.

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    Webpee is more Google shit being forced down our throats. They absolutely will eventually phase out all other graphic formats on Chrome. These giant tech companies are breaking the Web and this is just another example of them throwing their weight around.

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      I like it, it’s much smaller than PNG and JPG for the same quality. I save all my images as webp.

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    fortunately, since you use Firefox, there are a handful of extensions available just for this problem already. Maybe not for the drag n drop, though…

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        funny thing is, for some reason, it just… never came to me to just drag images from the browser and save them like that 😅, but surely sounds a logical and convenient thing to do, so I can see your frustration

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          I think it’s a Macintosh workflow that’s spilled out. From what I’ve seen, folks either use it heavily or not at all

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    I prefer PNG because of losless-nes (is that right?). If it’s jpeg, or webp originally, i don’t mind getting the image in that format. But converting/recompression is bad.

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      It should be spelt “losslessness”. “lossless” is an adjective and when you add “-ness” to an adjective it becomes a noun.

      I prefer PNG because it losslessly compresses raster images.

      I prefer PNG because it uses a lossless algorithm.

      I prefer PNG because I love losslessness.

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        After turning the word into a noun though, you’ll need to know how to turn it back into an adjective. We use “-less” to turn the noun into an adjective.

        I prefer PNG because it losslessnesslessly compresses raster images.

        I prefer PNG because it uses a losslessnessless algorithm.

        I prefer PNG because I love losslessnesslessness.