hot take but I think being “agp” is not bad or pathological any more than being trans is.
Maybe we can just leave this AGP shit out of conversations about trans women entirely. Nothing is gained from using a harmful, completely fucked, brainwormed gatekeeping term and applying it to normal human behavior.
the problem is pathologizing and shaming behavior that doesn’t actually harm anyone- it doesn’t matter what specific term you use to do it, hence why the term “agp” is in quotes.
i was trying to push back against the common rebuttal of “we’re nothing like those gross perverts Blanchard writes about” because it leaves room for the transphobes to move on to something else. it concedes too much! Imo people should be allowed to transition because they have a right to as a matter of bodily autonomy, not because they fit within some abstract standards of behavior.
Ok, i get it now and i largely agree that a certain “do i want her or do i want to be her” mood is extremely common among cis women as well, and i particularly agree that transness isn’t something to be diagnosed in the first place. I also think that both of these arguments are among the many, many good reasons to discard the term AGP in its entirity. I just read the quoted part as you actually arguing within AGP discourse, the way it’s worded is just a bit ambiguous.
Maybe we can just leave this AGP shit out of conversations about trans women entirely. Nothing is gained from using a harmful, completely fucked, brainwormed gatekeeping term and applying it to normal human behavior.
the problem is pathologizing and shaming behavior that doesn’t actually harm anyone- it doesn’t matter what specific term you use to do it, hence why the term “agp” is in quotes.
i was trying to push back against the common rebuttal of “we’re nothing like those gross perverts Blanchard writes about” because it leaves room for the transphobes to move on to something else. it concedes too much! Imo people should be allowed to transition because they have a right to as a matter of bodily autonomy, not because they fit within some abstract standards of behavior.
Ok, i get it now and i largely agree that a certain “do i want her or do i want to be her” mood is extremely common among cis women as well, and i particularly agree that transness isn’t something to be diagnosed in the first place. I also think that both of these arguments are among the many, many good reasons to discard the term AGP in its entirity. I just read the quoted part as you actually arguing within AGP discourse, the way it’s worded is just a bit ambiguous.
i mean i pretty much was, op admitted to having brain worms around the term so i was trying to suggest re-examining/reclaiming it from that angle