If people would use the lemmy cross posting functionality it would only show up once.
Indeed, unfortunately most of the mobile apps don’t implement that feature
I think ljdawson is working on it for Sync. I assume that’s why he held off on implementing posting.
That would make sense
I didn’t even realize this was a thing already. The apps need to add this ASAP, seems like a pretty vital part of making the experience smooth.
They do, but they are also developed by volunteers
if people do cross posts, will i see the post only once?
will lemmy detect that i can see the original + 3 crossposts and show me only the original?
this is more like a feature request, i don’t think we are there yet.
we could also aggregate and sync comments across cross postings, so that the post is really just one, but posted in more than one community.
Yes, this is how it works in lemmy-ui. In this following example someone posted to !technology@beehaw.org and I pressed the cross-post button and cross-posted it to !firefox@lemmy.ml:
And if you cross post it to more then one there will be just a list of them.
if people do cross posts, will i see the post only once?
will lemmy detect that i can see the original + 3 crossposts and show me only the original?
On the website, it does
Problem is on mobile apps. If it works on website, that’s good but doesn’t solve the problem of majority of users that are on mobile.
I’m using the website on mobile and it does do it there too:
Mobile website != mobile apps
Interestingly the title is “my biggest gripe with Lemmy” not “my biggest gripe with my app of choice”.
OP, like me, probably doesn’t/didn’t know that the website interface for Lemmy has a solution for this and it’s actually an app problem. So to OP it is a “Lemmy” gripe until we’re given more info. :)
The comment you were replying to was talking about mobile apps and not the mobile website.
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Agreed, I said it in another comment
Man Memmy needs that ASAP…
Oh wow I didn’t know such thing existed on Lemmy
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Sort by Top 6 Hours vs Hot or Active
This was a game changer for me when I saw someone suggest it
Top 6 gang
all of the posts in the screenshot were less than 6 hours old, so that probably wouldn’t help
except that those three are probably calculated differently from each other
It would give you the top posts from the last 6 hours so they should go away.
Hot or Active give you a lot of stuff that would fall under “New”.
Edit: I just looked at the top 20 posts on my Top (6H) feed and they all have 200 points or more. All of the posts on your screen shot have less than 20.
This is top 6 hours.
Eh. Eventually one of them would win out. I posted the same link in movies@lemmy.world and moviesandtv@lemmy.film. The first one hasn’t had any comments where as the second one has more than a dozen comments. I know where I’ll post the next time.
A lot of people seem to have forgotten (or maybe just weren’t around at the time) but there were tons of duplicate communities on reddit during the first years too. Over time their mods either agreed to close one and point everyone to the other or the less active ones faded away naturally.
One problematic scenario I can envision with that approach on Lemmy however is the mods of news@lemmysite1 and news@lemmysite2 agreeing to keep the first one alive, but then after a while lemmysite1 closes for whatever reason. So we’re left with news@lemmysite2 which is a ghost town. Probably not a big deal for a news community, but for something with a lot of info on a particular topic it’s not really ideal.
Already happened for the Android community. Hopefully the new one gets bigger than the old one
The old one was revived, the admins of lemmy world don’t agree with parking community names
Do you wake up on the same snowy day, every day, with Sonny and Cher’s “I got you babe” playing on the clock radio?
Nah, but I can’t seem to get out of this retro hotel room. It’s freezing in here, and “We’ve Only Just Begun” by The Carpenters keeps playing from the clock radio even though I unplugged it.
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I suggested an idea to fix this, that I called “thread entanglement”. I had suggested it for Kbin specifically, before, but honestly the base Lemmy software could use something like this. I’d love to see some sort of smart merging of duplicate threads like this be possible.
As others have mentioned in that thread. It would be better as an option from the user side rather than site wide forced implementation. I hope you open a GitHub issue/discussion in the repository so the idea could get more exposure.
Adding this as an issue on the Lemmy GitHub would be a great idea.
If the title text is the same it should just squash them, show you all the options on further inspection.
This is my preferred option. Requires no underlying change to ActivityPub or federation, just makes the end user experience more pleasant until/unless communities gain more distinct personalities that would result in fewer reposts.
Better yet, it should semi-force you to post as a crosspost which would remove the duplicate from end user feeds. Especially if there’s already a post on another community with a matching content link.
Keep in mind you can always block communities you’re not interested in to prevent them from appearing in any feed. I’ve already blocked plenty of communities to make the “All” post list digestable.
There are so many though. I’m trying to prune politics from my feed but people keep making new goddamn communities - a dozen isn’t enough, apparently - and then crossposting everything everywhere anyway.
You can also block users, which is super helpful with people that go on crossposting rampages.
Could you please share the blocked part of the JSON you get with https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim ?
That could probably help new joiners.
Why would I? The list of communities which one wants to block is very personal / individual. My preferences what I don’t want to engage with is purely mine and cannot be transferred to all other users. So any user should make their own decisions what communities they want to block, instead of blindly copying someone elses and potentially missing out on content they would enjoy.
I agree with you to an extent, but I think there should still be a default list of blocked instances that we could provide to new joiners, so that they can at least have a base to avoid the experience OP had.
Of course that would be opt-in, but at least that would ease the adoption a bit.
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Ya I’m having that issue too. I posted about it here: https://lemmy.ca/comment/1871582
Sync for Lemmy seems to be the only app that actually shows me context right now.
Sync also seems to be pretty good at not showing so many duplicates from different communities, but maybe that’s placebo.
I also find that. Connect would rerun the same posts quite quickly. Sync also seems to not show me so many non-English instances, although perhaps I’ve blocked them all?
No idea about language. I cans still see the non-English instance I’m on, but I check that deliberately as there’s not a lot of traffic.
My biggest gripe right now is how often everything goes down. About 6 times out of 10 when I go to load anything on lemmy it is down, confirmed on https://lemmy-world.statuspage.io/
lemmy.world got too big IMO. So I ended up switching to a different instance. If all the users were to evenly distribute themselves across many instances, and not just have everyone on like 1-3 different instances, I think that the issues with unavailability, lag, and whatnot would happen much less.
I’m actually trying to solve this issue on my own Lemmy app. It automatically switches instances when the requested one is down. Works only in the Feed right now and, of course, accounts are still instance-bound - but I will fix that soon.
I had the most issues on my lemmy.world account. I’ve had less issues on my lemmy.ca account, maybe try making an account on a different instance? World has been getting attacked a lot lately.
considering hopping onto a different instance because of this. Lemmy.world in particular always seems to be experiencing issues.
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I personally wouldn’t use one the larger instances, as they’re usually going to have the most issues (more complex deployments, longer maintenance downtimes, etc)
I am most comfortable with lemmy.world because of their old reddit formatting. It made the transition easy. Call it lazy or low brain, but maybe if other instances will also do the old format, they might get more users shifting to their instances too?
Still trying to learn here, but so far I find myself jumping back to old.lemmy.world simple because of familiarity.
After I went to my local instance of lemmy, sdf.org, I have literally zero issue
This is why it wasn’t until we didn’t commit to migrating /r/android over until lemdro.id was setup for us (!android@lemdro.id).
It’s just like browsing r/all on reddit. We did it, Lemmy!
There are a couple of users I recognize just because of the amount of duplicate/triplicate/quadruplicate posts I see from them, often times grouped up like that too.
Which… Why? There’s no karma to farm here, just post it once and let the conversation happen there.
No offense to anyone, but I’m down voting duplicates to try to stop this shit.
Because there’s more then one community of the same topic. They’re actually doing a really good thing, they’re trying to grow multiple communities. It’s not karma farming here, it’s supporting communities. That is much preferably then people only submitting to the biggest community and create more centralization.
The whole point of making a federated network of independent instances is to avoid the issues arising with one central instance, right? Putting the content out to multiple instances plays into that: If it’s important content, no single authority can easily censor it, and the loss of a single instance won’t erase it.
If it’s trash, of course, every community in every instance you post it to will have to clean it up separately. Arguably, that puts more strain on the respective moderation teams, but if (ideally) those are disjunct people (again, to avoid the issues of a single authority), the strain should be distributed.
And on the plus side, it would enable each community (in the lemmy sense) to enforce their own nuanced rules, additionally leading to slightly more choice between the types of moderation you favour (as opposed to “There’s one big sub, take it or leave it”).
Individual communities may be smaller, but maybe some more form of coordination of similar communities across instances could amend that (like linking to the other communities in your sidebar etc.).
I could also imagine a super-community solution that would allow you to aggregate several communities across instances similar to multireddits. I’m new here, so I’m not sure if that exists, nor have I given the implementation any thought, but I suppose that could be convenient.
Hadn’t thought about it like that. Thanks. I think this will become less of an annoyance over time, too. The more communities show up and get active, the more I subscribe to, then the more I’ll use my subscribe feed and therefore won’t see the duplicates.
There are some who are trying to feed content to all communities instead of just choosing.
I’m surprised that no-one’s brought out a client that can merge communities. People properly using the cross-posting feature seems to help with this a bit.
At least if lemmy detects the same link it should view it as a cross-post automatically, even if people didn’t use the cross-post UI.
Fuck yeah! I was just thinking about this the other day. Like a singular mask for all political communities, one for pictures, etc. Almost how Gaim/Pidgin/Adium/Trillion did for the multitude of competing chat programs back in the day.
You’re not the first one, here is a open feature request from June 2020 https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/818
But my favourite implementation would be that I as a user should be able to create virtual communities where I can put in one, two or several communities into one and it would be shown like one community in my UI.
I haven’t thought of those clients in years. I feel old. Used all of them except Adium, and I think it was just a specific kind of Trillian? Not too sure, it’s kind of fuzzy.
This sentence is being uttered by me more and more the last couple weeks.
Guess I’ll be dead of old age by next month or so. Rip.
lol you better not be dead in the next month or so!
I think Adium was, or now that I’m looking at Wikipedia became the OSX(as it was named at the time) implementation of Gaim/Pidgin. Was its own thing but started getting Gaim/Pidgin stuff implemented in it. Trillian, I think, was distinct because it was a closed source commercial product whereas the Gaim/Pidgin/Adium has always been an open source free kind of deal.
I appreciate the poster sharing the article to multiple communities/instances, but would be nice if the Lemmy front-end could batch these (maybe with a link like “appears in a@b, b@b, c@a …”) if the user + link + title all hashed out to the same thing.
On one hand yes annoying but on the other I’m grateful for their effort in generating post
TIL there’s people that still use Yahoo News.
Hey, free news content sans paywall and an app that does only what it says on the tin. What’s not to like?
Huh, I just looked. I swear it was more cancerous before.
Yahoo Finance managed to make itself real damn useful, and that’s one of the most lucrative ad markets, if not THE most lucrative.
When I woke my Yahoo Mail account from its ancient slumber, everything was in Spanish for some reason, and I expect that reason is that they expanded outside the US and have a large user base in South America, where Yahoo probably doesn’t look as dead. “Free email” goes even farther when your country doesn’t get to have the world’s reserve currency. So Yahoo just defaulted to Spanish for accounts until I had to tell it I’m a gringo.
Americans really do have a hard time remembering the rest of the globe exists, but our companies don’t, so a lot of companies that seem “dead” are just really active outside the US.
So yeah, somebody is still using Yahoo News. Quite a lot of somebodies, actually. Even Americans. Especially Americans. They hooked us with real nice stock market quotes and such. That’s how you reel a Yankee back in, make it easy to see that revenue trend at a glance.
I’m originally from Australia where Yahoo used to be very big, but I don’t think it’s commonly used there now either. Australia generally copies the US though, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that Yahoo News is popular in some countries outside US and AU.
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