• terry_tibbs@lemmy.ml
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    Police can’t handle entry level banter here, every officer I’ve dealt with has been a power tripping cunt including the PCSO’s who don’t even have arresting powers.

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    Awful. Being autistic she may well have meant it at face value without it being an insult, and not understood what she did wrong as she just stated a fact. Then being dragged out while she had an autistic meltdown :(

    Even if she did mean it as an insult and wasn’t autistic, there’d be still no need to drag her out and arrest her. She’s a kid. Educate her, sure, but there was no need to escalate it.

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      Educate her, sure

      “now honey, what you said was deeply offensive to your grandmother. she doesn’t look like a thumb-cop!”

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      The bottom line is, the victim having autism and being young is irrelevant in the sense that no-one should be treated like that for such a trivial insult.

      It’s obviously still relevant, the victim is particularly vulnerable, making the abuse so much more obviously callous and disgusting. But I say if this happened to Joe Citizen, it would also be horrific.

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      That is a pretty sick brurn though. Good on ya, autistic lady whether you meant it as an insult or not. Sorry about the pigs throwing a temper tantrum

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      Even if she did mean it as an insult and wasn’t autistic, SO WHAT FUCK OFF COP, INSULTS AREN’T ILLEGAL!!!

      Fixed that for you.

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        The article mentions drink was involved - I don’t know if its the neurodivergence or just me, but I could definitley find myself saying that if met someone who looked like my gay Nan while having a pissed up panic attack

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        Yeah fr i was thinking ‘yeah that’s EXACTLY what an autistic person needs after getting manhandled and detained- a SCOLDING LECTURE over WORD CHOICE! Woohoo!’

        Respectfully to the commenter, we get enough of that shit from regular people already. For some, on a daily basis. Sometimes it’s just bc they feel like guilting someone. So at least for me, that kind of ‘lesson’ wouldn’t go down without some bile (which I’d prob force back up into someone’s face in that situation). The cop looked exactly like her gran and she was right to say it.

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          Yeah I absolutely agree with you. I didn’t mean to suggest that lecturing the neurodiverse person would have solved the situation in this case.

          I meant that even if the girl was neurotypical and/or intended it as a homophobic insult… it doesn’t really matter - if the cop had to do anything, then just talking to the girl would have been a more proportionate response than what happened.

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        I meant that if the girl was neurotypical and meant to insult the cop, then the cop talking to her would still be a more proportionate response than assault and arrest.

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        You think people with a limited verbal filter who speak their mind shouldn’t be allowed to go out at night or drink alcohol?

        I think ableists shouldn’t be allowed on the internet.

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        I’m sorry what?

        You clearly read the article to know she was intoxicated, so you must have also seen the kids words quoted as "you look like my Nana, she’s a lesbian.

        That’s oversharing, people do that on a normal day, let alone that she was an intoxicated neurodiverse child having a panic attack. Without context it’s not an insult, with context its a child being manhandled while in distress.

        It seems like you have a problem with her as a person for either being a drunk teenager, neurodivergent or possibly something else? Kids fuck about, the consequences in this instance should be a hangover and a stern talking to, not assault and arrest.

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        Saying someone looks like someone else who happens to be gay is not homophobic… You’re homophobic for thinking it is.

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          Honestly, I don’t think it is.
          From an outside perspective, someone might genuinely have that opinion. It might be up for debate (and ratio), however.
          From another, you could understand how someone was willing to take the risk to experience a more normal life.

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    She is right. The cops here in the UK are bullies and they treat the public like crap. Bullied in school became a cop to get power, uses power to bully others. The way they treat people is awful. I work in accommodation for the homless and the diffrece in the way the police talk to me and them, is night and day.

    Thing is, no one want to be friends with a cop or be in a relationship with them… could you imagen breaking up with a cop? Fuxk that! i’d sooner cut a finger off.

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      Generally, there are two types of CHUDs:

      1. People who were popular in high school and bullied people, and being a CHUD is how they can relive their glory days as the cool kids forever

      2. People who were bullied by group one, and decided to get their revenge on the world by becoming bullies themselves.

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        So well put here. This is a very good explanation. If you don’t mind me asking, is a CHUD an abbreviation of something or is it just a word assigned/given, like Karen or Jock

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          CHUD is an acronym for cannibalistic humanoid undergroud dwellers. It’s a reference to movie, but for whatever reason CHUD became the slang term for reactionaries. You’ll every now and then see “hog” used the same way.

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      I think this applies everywhere. The power attracts a particular personality type that is less than trustworthy.

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        Oh yeah this is definitely the case, but if you know anything about UK playgrounds, you definitely know the type.

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      Is freedom of speech not protected there? Or are the cops that much of a cunt that they ignore it?

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        Let’s just say… you have that freedom but who says they can’t get rough before you get a chance at some actual policing when you are in front of the Sargent.

        They are on edge and jump at the opportunity to arrest someone for even a simple infraction, what makes it worse is that, resisting, talking back, swearing and in anyway make the police officer technically feel “upset” or “afraid” can add more to the case, so you can imagen a mouthy person getting manhandled like this person.

        They love it.

        Edit: some spelling

        P.S Don’t get me wrong, there are good cops but its pay is shite, its just a job to some and the lack of funding is a joke. also for real, corruption needs to be addressed.

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        There is no equivalent of the first amendment in the UK - we don’t have the right to freedom of speech in that sense but do have freedom of expression (from the Human Rights Act if nowhere else).

        It is an offence to say hate speech or commit certain offences against public order (which the police claimed in this case).

        Effective the UK operates on all speech is legal unless it is legislated against, which hate speech is.

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    When you’re a cop, you get to hurt anyone who upsets you in any way. The law is secondary, if it shows up at all. You’re a tool for indiscriminate violence.

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    “You snowflakes need to grow a thicker skin!”

    “Hold on, you’re insulting ME! THAT’S ILLEGAL BUDDY!”

    So they expect us to be tougher than them?

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    I’m jealous of you guys that this is a scandal there.

    We Americans would just be like “She’s still alive!? Cop must have gotten laid that morning or something to be in such an un-murdery mood.”

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      We will get there don’t you worry.

      The UK police don’t have the funding to attrace the uterly ruthless. It isn’t reall fair.

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      Reminds me of Elijah McClain, he had autism. He was killed by police in Colorado via asphyxiation and ketemine. Not ketemine he had taken, no, they injected it to sedate him. I’ll bet you can guess his skin color too.

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      Nah Americans are crying about it and terrified it’s going to happen here. They’re cool with black people getting brutalized but now they’re worried their homophobia (not saying the girl was homophobic) is going to get them beat up. Kind of poetic.

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    “Upon returning her to the address, comments were made which resulted in the girl being arrested on suspicion of a homophobic public order offence. The nature of the comments made was fully captured on body-worn video.”

    So they are justifying their behavior by calling her homophobic?

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      Especially in Leeds. That policewoman is probably about the same age as her grandma.

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    Alright.

    So why are there like 8 police officers in the house before the arresting comment is even said?

    Why was this fragile person with scoliosis and severe autism out, pissed up, past midnight on a Monday night in Leeds city centre?

    I have no idea, but to play devil’s advocate, it kind of sounds like this kid is a piece of shit and got arrested for it, and the parents are hiding her behaviour behind the autism shield for sympathy.

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      I’m suddenly reminded of that dying man who mooned a speed camera only for loads of police to swarm his house later on.