Every “experimental” regime was either toppled (Chile) or had to align with the USSR (Cuba) to survive. There was never a real attempt at democratic socialist politics without interference from superpowers.
Idk, but I feel like Olof Palme (PM of Sweden) def got murdered by the USA for his criticism on the Vietnam War. Or by South Africa for his criticism on apartheid.
most governments are allowed to mostly be sovereign
Generally speaking, sovereign governments achieve that sovereignty through military might or the inability of would-be rulers to rule them, not by simply being “allowed” to govern themselves by neighbors.
All Socialism is democratic, including Cuba and the USSR. Trying to reform the system along Socialist lines from within the system like Allende is why he sadly failed and was couped by the US Empire.
The US tried to invade Cuba as well, and tried to kill Castro, several times. That’s ultimately why he did align with the USSR - choosing the bully that’s slightly more on your side.
This is a non sequitur. It doesn’t follow that Allende choosing reform over revolution is what resulted in the US interference. The US has been known to interfere in revolutionary movements as well.
Equally though if the Soviet Union stayed out it’d be a lot less
In reality rest of the world is just the pawns of the top two nations and has been for 500 years or so at this point
Also it’s worth noting that Europe would more than likely be largely fascist as I doubt the UK would have joined a war with a non-interventionist US leaving the Soviets and Axis to fight alone, with the UK and US being largely left alone as Hitler never wanted war with either for both ideological and strategic reasons (this assumes that WW1 ended the same way but just took a couple more years to finish)
Letting Germany keep their African and Southeast Asian colonies, as well as likely gaining France’s (if France declared war, it’s possible that without the UK backing them up they wouldn’t) while the USSR had none would mean the world would be way more fascist than socialist
The world would be far more Socialized.
That’s actually the really sad story here.
Every “experimental” regime was either toppled (Chile) or had to align with the USSR (Cuba) to survive. There was never a real attempt at democratic socialist politics without interference from superpowers.
There was never a government at all without interference from superpowers.
Of course, but most governments are allowed to mostly be sovereign.
Sweden or Australia play ball on their own, no need for a coup here.
Lol, what? Australia is a US lackee more than anywhere else. And the CIA was definitely involved in the Whitlam sacking.
Idk, but I feel like Olof Palme (PM of Sweden) def got murdered by the USA for his criticism on the Vietnam War. Or by South Africa for his criticism on apartheid.
Generally speaking, sovereign governments achieve that sovereignty through military might or the inability of would-be rulers to rule them, not by simply being “allowed” to govern themselves by neighbors.
The USA did not invent power.
My relative likes to mention Nicaragua in the 1970s/80s, but I haven’t had the time to read up about it.
All Socialism is democratic, including Cuba and the USSR. Trying to reform the system along Socialist lines from within the system like Allende is why he sadly failed and was couped by the US Empire.
The US tried to invade Cuba as well, and tried to kill Castro, several times. That’s ultimately why he did align with the USSR - choosing the bully that’s slightly more on your side.
This is a non sequitur. It doesn’t follow that Allende choosing reform over revolution is what resulted in the US interference. The US has been known to interfere in revolutionary movements as well.
Equally though if the Soviet Union stayed out it’d be a lot less
In reality rest of the world is just the pawns of the top two nations and has been for 500 years or so at this point
Also it’s worth noting that Europe would more than likely be largely fascist as I doubt the UK would have joined a war with a non-interventionist US leaving the Soviets and Axis to fight alone, with the UK and US being largely left alone as Hitler never wanted war with either for both ideological and strategic reasons (this assumes that WW1 ended the same way but just took a couple more years to finish)
Letting Germany keep their African and Southeast Asian colonies, as well as likely gaining France’s (if France declared war, it’s possible that without the UK backing them up they wouldn’t) while the USSR had none would mean the world would be way more fascist than socialist
Just imagine how scared and hungry we could all be