• UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I’ve recently been told that berdly-actually it’s only the training that demands these massive datacenters, so it is stupid to be upset about treat printing when it’s just training that requires these massive data centers. Surely these data centers don’t stick around and their owners don’t demand more and more of them for even more training, you silly emotional Luddites. berdly-smug

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      Meanwhile many people who are actually involved in the programming shudder in horror of what lies ahead of us.

      I took one year of programming in college and that’s all I need to know that I will resist as much IoT or bazinga slop as possible. But FWIW it was kind of cool to fool around with data.

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      Just running some data through the resulting model is still somewhat expensive since they have so many parameters. And of course for a lot of things, you want to train the model on new data you’re putting through it anyways.

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          In their defense, I’m sure there are tons of actually useful machine learning models that don’t use that much power once trained.

          I have an iPhone with Face ID and I think the way they did that was to train a model on lots of people’s faces, and they just ship that expensive-to-train model with the operating system and then it trains a little bit more when you use face ID. I can’t imagine it uses that much power since you’re running the algorithm every time you open the phone.

          I’m sure any model worth anything probably does require a lot of training and energy usage. I guess it really depends on the eventual utility whether it’s worth it.

  • SwitchyWitchyandBitchy [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    We all have devices in our pockets powerful and well connected enough to do just about everything we use “the cloud” for except for large scale data collection for advertising and surveillance. And even then these devices are still capable of being used for surveillance and advertising effectiveness monitoring, just not as well. If our government and the supposedly wise hand of the free market cared more about global warming than global surveillance and financial dominance, they would have already shuttered most of the data center capacity in the US. Then again there are still mining farms turning electricity into monopoly money.

    Idk what I’m trying to say here, I’m just bitterly disappointed in the state of the society I live in.

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      I completely agree in terms of personal computing like storing photos, documents, notes, and so on. At most, they could be encrypted locally and stored remotely so that multiple devices can use the data.

      There are still plenty of use cases for server-oriented data processing. Most “infrastructure” related things work well that way. Cases where data needs to be quickly read and written from a number of different locations and the information isn’t really secret or personal. I am biased since I work on one of those systems. But there are so many internal systems at companies that really don’t need end-to-end encryption either. Although maybe some day things will still move in that direction.

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      Not sure what you mean by “junk data”, but hoarding data is the least of our issues. It’s the computational power and cooling that eats up all the energy, not the “cold storage”.