Personally my takeaway from radicalization has been more of that- climate change, pandemics, even the threat of nuclear war, all of these cannot be ended without the death of empire.
Preach. You could tell me aliens are real and they’re launching an invasion and I would still be more preoccupied with what the hell we’re gonna do about ecosystem collapse. (not to diminish the importance of the genocide in Palestine, which when understood through a materialist analysis is just intrinsically linked to climate change anyway)
Is actually one of the most important factors when it comes to climate change right now.
Think about how many tons of carbon have been released by fighters bombing hospitals, and tanks tearing up roads in refugee camps. As bad as a coal power plant in China is for the climate, at least it is producing a tangible good, and is part of a greater mission to uplift people, improve their standard of living, on the path to zero emissions. We have burned millions of tons of carbon, with Israel, for the sole purpose of ethnic cleansing.
This, also if you think about it- the total cumulative emissions of the west vastly exceeds that of China’s, or India’s, or that of any other global south country. And much of China’s emissions are basically just the west’s relocated industry, supporting western consumerism- and it is not so long ago that China was an immensely poor nation, even now it is still undeniably a developing nation (though developing in leaps and bounds). Coal, oil, etc… these historically have been necessary steps along the road to human development (and human basic needs which all the global south is struggling with > environment by-and-large; anything else is ecofascism or something akin to it).
But now- look at China, and the global south. China is upending even this historical path, and making massive leaps and bounds in not only renewable energy technology, but making said technology affordable and accessible to the masses and thus viable as a true replacement to fossil fuels. The global south at large is embracing it with all they’ve got (limited means, but they’re embracing it all right). Look at the work of countries like China, or even India, or even some of the world’s most impoverished nations along the west African Sahel, etc… and one can see that these nations, who have been given the brunt of climate/pollution imperialism- fully understand and are actively working to combat it (even if they also need to feed themselves, their families, they need to have basic needs like education, healthcare, housing, etc… these things don’t grow on trees) with efforts that, in China’s case, eclipse that of the west’s (despite western wealth and decades of doing nothing and rather maintaining- to this day!- as wretched a system as possible, to maintain oil exec’s profits, to maintain the local auto/etc industries’ profits, etc etc etc), and in the case of other far poorer/less developed global south nations, resemble an effort far greater (compared to their resources) than that of any western country…
I’m starting to get radicalized to the point where I don’t believe that any problem is more important than climate change.
Personally my takeaway from radicalization has been more of that- climate change, pandemics, even the threat of nuclear war, all of these cannot be ended without the death of empire.
The empire will die, or it will kill us all.
imperialism remains the primary contradiction
deep greens stay seething, common mao w
biggest polluter on earth is US military and they’re never gonna stop until you make them
Yeah. Libs are like “we need to do something!” And it’s like “here’s the org chart for us central command go something”
Preach. You could tell me aliens are real and they’re launching an invasion and I would still be more preoccupied with what the hell we’re gonna do about ecosystem collapse. (not to diminish the importance of the genocide in Palestine, which when understood through a materialist analysis is just intrinsically linked to climate change anyway)
Is actually one of the most important factors when it comes to climate change right now.
Think about how many tons of carbon have been released by fighters bombing hospitals, and tanks tearing up roads in refugee camps. As bad as a coal power plant in China is for the climate, at least it is producing a tangible good, and is part of a greater mission to uplift people, improve their standard of living, on the path to zero emissions. We have burned millions of tons of carbon, with Israel, for the sole purpose of ethnic cleansing.
This, also if you think about it- the total cumulative emissions of the west vastly exceeds that of China’s, or India’s, or that of any other global south country. And much of China’s emissions are basically just the west’s relocated industry, supporting western consumerism- and it is not so long ago that China was an immensely poor nation, even now it is still undeniably a developing nation (though developing in leaps and bounds). Coal, oil, etc… these historically have been necessary steps along the road to human development (and human basic needs which all the global south is struggling with > environment by-and-large; anything else is ecofascism or something akin to it).
But now- look at China, and the global south. China is upending even this historical path, and making massive leaps and bounds in not only renewable energy technology, but making said technology affordable and accessible to the masses and thus viable as a true replacement to fossil fuels. The global south at large is embracing it with all they’ve got (limited means, but they’re embracing it all right). Look at the work of countries like China, or even India, or even some of the world’s most impoverished nations along the west African Sahel, etc… and one can see that these nations, who have been given the brunt of climate/pollution imperialism- fully understand and are actively working to combat it (even if they also need to feed themselves, their families, they need to have basic needs like education, healthcare, housing, etc… these things don’t grow on trees) with efforts that, in China’s case, eclipse that of the west’s (despite western wealth and decades of doing nothing and rather maintaining- to this day!- as wretched a system as possible, to maintain oil exec’s profits, to maintain the local auto/etc industries’ profits, etc etc etc), and in the case of other far poorer/less developed global south nations, resemble an effort far greater (compared to their resources) than that of any western country…
This is correct.
Agreed, I was saying the same thing to someone else earlier.
Except maybe biodiversity?
Same problem, ultimately. Global warming and the Sixth Great Extinction are being caused by the same people and processes.