I’d rather have a more honed argument than what I provided. I hate the arrogance and presumptiveness and bubble-world aspects of “don’t say ‘cis’ because normal is just normalgrillman style arguments so I’m seeing red here.

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    Text of the “don’t say cis” arguer below:

    “cis” I feel like it’s an extra term for “straight”. The “default” for lack of a better term (and one that isn’t othering) is near the not trans & not gay part of the gender / sexuality spectra. To me everyone in that zone is “straight” (boring/default/whatever).

    I’m open to an explanation of a commonplace situation where it’s necessary to have a separate word for “is of the gender that matches that assigned at birth.”

    To me it’s like if I say I enjoyed the sunrise" and someone says, “you mean the Earth sunrise?”

    I mean yeah, sunrises happen all over the solar system, there are different kinds of sunrises, probably all beautiful in their own ways, but in general the default “sunrise” a human is likely to be talking about is the one we experience on Earth.

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      “cis” I feel like it’s an extra term for “straight”

      This alone would earn them a “shut the fuck up” from me. If they can’t even be bothered to look up basic terms then I can’t be bothered to give them anything but derision.

      To me it’s like if I say I enjoyed the sunrise" and someone says, “you mean the Earth sunrise?”

      Yeah no shit because everyone lives on Earth right now. If people were experiencing sunrises from non-Earth viewpoints, I would absolutely expect the distinction to start being made between different kinds of sunrises. Like consider why “landline telephones” used to just be called “telephones,” or “analog clocks” used to just be called “clocks,” or “acoustic guitars” used to just be called “guitars,” and why all of those terms have had extra words applied to them.