He got me to read the Manifesto and would have hours’ long debates with our social-democratic roommate and now this. It’s really shaking me up a bit.

He is on the whole defeatist ‘nothing will fundamentally shake the imperial machine so might as well pick the wardog with better domestic policies’ tip. I want to get through to him but I am getting stuck.

For example:

i also refuse to not vote my conscience but i figured this time its not like doing this abstract process to pick if id prefer -100 points vs -200 points is gonna matter that much if i genuinely believe itll even be slightly better under kamala i might as well

kitty-birthday-sad

        • SoJB@lemmy.mlEnglish
          15·
          24 days ago

          Liberals genuinely have lost the ability to distinguish reality from fiction, and you can see a microcosm of it in the fascist Lemmy instances.

          Conservatives tell them one thing, they can easily discard it in favor of facts and logic. So they abandon the working class.

          The Party tells them one thing, leftists prove them wrong with the logic and facts they used to value so highly. So they abandon facts and logic.

          The US State Dept tells them one thing, yet reality itself disproves it. So they abandon reality.

          They clutch their ballots and throw their tantrums and hysterics about voting because that’s the one thing they have left that is real. They can fill in a little bubble and know they did the Good Thing and are on the Good Side and everyone else telling them mean things are the Bad Side.

      • imogen_underscore [it/its, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        71·
        24 days ago

        they are and it’s worse because their internal contradictions / lack of true explanations make it intolerable for them without understanding why. i get how being a marxist can feel like a curse sometimes but i would never choose the alternative.