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So basically what happened that evening:
- Israeli hooligans sing chants in support of the mass murder of children.
- Israeli hooligans look for conflict and instigate violence on the streets of Amsterdam.
- Violence breaks out between the Israeli hooligans and Amsterdam youth groups.
This all under the shadow of an ongoing likely ethnic cleansing / genocide in Palestine.
And now every newspaper from center-left to far-right in the Netherlands is pretending some horrible antisemitic violence took place akin to 40-45. While at the same time the Dutch government is talking about mass deportations of Muslims. And apparently they are also getting pushed by Israel to strip Dutch citizens of human rights by putting them on these horrible “terrorist” watch lists. Truly incredible.
The funniest thing to me is ‘take their passports away’ and ‘deport them’ as if these are recent immigrants. Most of these kids are 2nd or 3rd generation, and fully Dutch citizens, so nothing can be done against them in that way
This. Also, scratch that 2nd, these day the 4th generation is coming of age, and it’s getting boring to refer to them as anything other than Dutch. Sure, they may call themselves Moroccan or Turkish, but it’s the same as all the Irish people of Boston.
Similar but different in that they still return to their families countries of origin regularly and speak Arabic actively. Americans are usually divested of that fully by the 2nd generation.
Yeah definitely I’m not denying them their moroccan identity, just talking strictly legally they’re Dutch 100%
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Nothing can be done against them right now, but a hundred years ago denaturalization was en vogue. We gotta make sure we don’t go back to that past.
You’re not entirely correct: there was already ongoing activity on social media about “Jew hunting” ahead of the game, mostly from youth with Moroccan roots, and for that reason additional police officers were deployed. The Maccabi supporters were a tad more aggressive and violent than was reported, as was “the other side”. A regular case of excessive soccer violence if you ask me, the little racism topping making it that more tasty.
The media were indeed rather favourable to the Israeli chaps at first, currently much more nuanced but the damage is done.You’re doing the exact same thing as those news outlets. There’s more nuance than that and you know it damn well. This instance should permanently ban you for spreading blatant misinformation.
Advocating to permanently ban someone for not being nuanced enough.
Speaking of missing nuance lol
The dutch article, that AA refers to:
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Explains why the ICJ is so compromised.
