Oh my fucking god I just wanted to say how otherworldly bad music is right now (pop has always been stupid to varying levels but oh my fucking god they have raised the stakes). I just listened to a bunch of pop tracks from various genres and I literally think I’m about to die. Rock, country, indie, folk, hipster white rap, whatever you call home, is aggressively bad. It’s like Walmart made a gun that can shoot cum and blood and piss and shit and puke into your soul. We are so fucking fucked. I want to saw my own head off.

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    You: despairing that the top 5 tracks on Spotify are soulless garbage wojak-nooo

    Me: clicking random folders on random soulseek accounts and finding nothing but bangers chad

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    Man some of the takes in this thread got me feelin like it’s two types of people: people who claim they ‘listen to a little bit of everything’ when that ‘little bit of everything’ is 31 radio-approved, Top-40 flavors of Post Malone, Aubrey Graham, Taylor Swift, and Billie Eilish; and people who actually go looking for and listen to acts that aren’t either white or gentrified

    That and that one oldhead who apparently hasn’t engaged with music since they were still pressin vinyls; man, don’t you have 8-track tapes to be wheeling back up? Be kind, rewind headass i-cant

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        True! I do at least try to carve out spaces for the likes of John Darnielle, Aesop Rock, RA the Rugged Man, etc.-- it does happen; I’m just using ‘white or gentrified’ as shorthand for ‘watered down content for a stolen, watered down genre’ rly

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          Got any recommendations for people who like Aesop Rock and want more like that, but haven’t been able to find anything because whenever they go looking for it they either get redditors recommending [current artist] or old heads talking about busta rhymes?

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            There was a recommendation of Deca in here, which I second; also Camu Tao (RIP big homie), Canibus (he’s a bit more in the Busta Rhymes era, but before he had his wild-out that lost his battle rap cred, he was one of the illest lyricists I ever heard) BUSDRIVER (super-fun deliveries imo), Four Fists (based as hell, found out about them through a leftist podcast that the name’s escaping me rn), Doseone’s also a strong lyricist in the Aes vein. I know there’s a few that are escaping me rn-- I’ll come back to this post if any more occur to me.

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        If you think someone’s skin colour affects their musical talent, you’re probably a bit racist

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          I think someone’s skin color predicts whether or not they’re an interloper in a stolen genre because that’s just what happens and what has happened with the western music industry since the fuckin forties. All your favorite rock n roll-- especially the British Invasion, since I see that .uk-- stole Black delta blues, popularized it, and typically didn’t pay a CENT to the progenitors of the licks and lyrics they ripped.

          Shut the fuck up, man; take your piss elsewhere.

          AND NOW THAT I’M THINKING ABOUT IT, you crackers built a WHOLE electronic genre off a stolen 8-bar drum loop that the progenitor of THAT drum loop took LITERAL FUCKING YEARS before ever saw a coin or a credit for it! But you wanna come here talm bout ‘racism’ when the only real difference between you and a “yank” is the accent you spit your bullshit with, and the quality of your teeth.

          Also y’all need a quantize command to find a meter, you can’t cmv

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              Nah. Sampling =/= stealing; we not doin this tonight. Beyond that, rap battles have distinctly African roots; while I’ll allow that troubadour ‘flyting’ is very similar, I’m not gonna let the reduction of rap battle to ‘troubadour type shit’ slide like that.

              We just not doin any of this tonight.

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                nerd ummm actually the vikings engaged in rhyming duels and they travelled to north africa at the very least, so this means that all rap is actually scandinavian in heritage

                (I’m being ironic, but there is some good scandinavian rap. There was a thread on here a few years ago where people shared non-anglo music and I still listen to a little bit of a group that got shared. No clue what they say, but I like the beats. They’ve apparently produced for NWA?)

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    I disagree so full heartedly. Outside of what you hear on the radio, art and music is thriving in this burning dystopia. TikTok has tuned me into so many amazing artists, big and small who never would’ve had the chance to spread their art without it.

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    Rock, country, indie, folk, hipster white rap, whatever you call home, is aggressively bad

    So, did you want to say rap here but realize it could come off wrong, so you said white rap instead? OR did you not realize you can listen to nonwhite rappers? Because it’s got to be one of those, right?

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      Dunno what’s up with op buuuut… When i was a teenager in buttfuck-redneck-midwest-nowhere listening to doggystyle and the chronic in my car i would actually turn down the music if i saw a black person nearby as i really, truly had a half-assed thought process picked up from my peers (both white and black) that i shouldn’t be. Like they’d judge me, almost like i believed there was some kinna unspoken rule that it was not mayomusic, or that i was a [slur] for listening to “their” music, that the artist didn’t make it for me at all. Like stolen valor or some shit i dunno

      Anyway maybe it’s the same for this cat or maybe it ain’t but that’s my origin story and i can’t figure how to end this comment well… Fuuuuu-

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      RIGHT??? I’ve had the best year for music in a while. I’m eating so good. All my favorite artists have released amazing work this year. Megan is glowing (i saw her live this year, i love her with all my heart) , Doechii dropped a life-changing album, Glorilla is having her moment, and Kendrick has cemented his dominance, oh i am blessed!!

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        All my favorite projects been dropping. Doechii, Kendrick, Tyler continuing his run of growth and evolution, Zeal and Ardor even blessed us with a new tape this year and that’s where I’ve been at when I need a metal fix. I fundamentally can’t take anybody whining about the state of music serious this year; like either you livin under a rock or you whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite

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          Oooo oooo zeal and ardor mentioned holy shit. My bf showed me them and I’m into them more now lol. Erghhhdjekdmwmxmwmdkwkdw Come on Down and all three parts of Sacriligium are bangersssss but my fav is Built on Ashes omg it’s so good.

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            Oh I fuckin LOVE THEM, shamefully it was a white homie of mine who put me onto them in the first place with the beckoning statement of “what do you think would’ve happened if escaped slaves turned to the antagonist of the slavemaster’s religion, instead of the slavemaster’s god?” and I been here ever since

            For me, I think my faves are “Ship On Fire” and “Death to the Holy”, but Come On Down is such an infectious track. Like, it makes me want to intone with a crowd, and it’s rare metal gets me in that mood anymore

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              I think your homie and my bf read the same something because that’s almost word for word what I got told lol.

              Ship on fire is fire fr fr!! The bit where its goes “we gotta seven different letters in seven rows” but it’s the second time and it does like a mini rise and drop/kicks back in (I dunno) at 1:23 kfdkwkdkwkdkw I wait all song for that bit.

              I think I’ve grown to love it so much cos it comes on right after row row which has the sickest breakdown omfg.

              Mmmm all the metal i like I’ve gotten mostly from him at the start of our friendship way before our relationship became a thing and like I know what I like so it really takes something special to make me listen to metal again and these guys kinda did it cos it was so new and fresh and not just angry cringe ass white dudes crying about the man and women while playing the saaaaame song again and again.

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                it really takes something special to make me listen to metal again

                Real as fuck, ion’t fuck with metal or its listeners like I used to anymore for fear of running face-first into Varg-adjacency(ironically, this is how JPEGMAFIA fell out of my top five) out of them and losing all my respect for the people who put me on to smth; so Zeal and Ardor was a refreshing change of pace for when I was put onto em

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                  Saaaaammmeee my bf insists it’s not all metal heads and I shouldn’t tarnish everyone with the same brush which is absolutely fair and true but in terms of metal heads you meet at gigs and out and about its like never a normal person.

                  It’s like there’s always one form of bigotry if not multiple. I’m sure a lot of them think they inclusive but it’s always “we don’t care who or what you are” milquetoast shit and when that’s coming from predominantly cis white straight men it’s always feels like a smokescreen to hide the fact they’ll have some vile ass take on one type of minority.

                  Thats how it always feels to me, even if your more qualified, more successful, more literate and more educated than a white male metal head, your always a little girl to them in a man’s world that thinks she gets how it all works and it boils my brain I swear.

                  Aaaaa I’m venting lmao. Does any of that track from your experience?

                  Loads are lovely so obviously I don’t wanna just slam metal fans since I’m technically one maybe I guess but like erghhhhh

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          Zeal and Ardor even blessed us with a new tape this year

          I’ve been meaning to get into metal, I mostly listen to rap and like sad queer pop music. also since I’ve been less of a shut-in I’ve been invited to all sorts of local music scenes, like if you’re out in the community you’re gonna get invites to cool stuff all the time right away. (i have to limit how often i can go out due to over stimulation from autism though.) its very easy to find local music and theres always something im not even that social. i can’t even begin to relate to this take there so much good music both local and popular.

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    Every single generation has reached the age where they say “music was better in my day” and they’re always wrong.

    Chappel Roan is the best thing to happen to pop music since ABBA