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Blaze (he/him)@lemmy.zip to Android@lemdro.idEnglish · 1 年前

Why are we still fighting smartphone bloatware in 2025?

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Why are we still fighting smartphone bloatware in 2025?

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I was excited to dive into my new smartphone only to once again waste precious time uninstalling bloatware before I could enjoy it.
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  • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.org
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    It’s 2025 already?

    Shit, I overslept again.

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      Wake me up when this eternal September ends

  • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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    Money

    • DrSleepless@lemmy.world
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      Now I got that Pink Floyd song in my head

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    I moved from samsung’s trash-filled bloat os to lineageos, and my only regret is not doing it sooner.

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      Welcome to the club. I’ve been a member since 2019 and am definitely not giving up my membership anytime in the near future.

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        Member cyanogenmod?

        • psud@aussie.zone
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          Back then it was easy. We could even run our bank apps on rooted unlocked phones

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          I wasn’t a member quite that far back, but I kept up with the scene enough to know that it had changed to lineage OS when that occurred.

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            I did, but back then it felt more like a novelty. I lost interest in messing with my phone since, but now I actually needed it.

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        I do wish they would switch to a non profit or sell a product.

        I get why they don’t though

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      • Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world
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        The frustrating thing is all the information and materials to support Samsung devices is out there, but the custom ROM development community is so ridiculously toxic and unhelpful to newcomers that few people are willing and able to mainline new devices (and supporting a new device is complicated enough that you pretty much can’t get started without someone more experienced to point out the decades of cruft, pitfalls, and vendor-specific workarounds that the build processes have accumulated). More of the old guard leaves every year without enough new blood to replace them.

      • PeroBasta@lemmy.world
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        I buy my device only based on if I can load a differenti os

        This is the mandatory prerequisite for me.

        So i bought a refurbished s20u (same spec of s24u except for camera and CPU basically)

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        Search for lineage os your phone model if you’re lucky someone will have ported the project to your device, the more popular it was the more likely

        There are reasonable instructions

        Your phone will need an unlocked bootloader, and it will not be able to be locked again while running lineage. This will prevent the use of any secure software which includes most bank apps, login authenticators. Local security is entirely bypassed by the unlocked bootloader

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      • Bezier@suppo.fi
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        No clue, my phone is not exactly recent.

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    • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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      Use it Google free

  • HowManyNimons@lemmy.world
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    Because Google and Samsung are rich and powerful.

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    I thought it is still 2024

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      You think the problem will go away this month?

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        Of course not! But it doesn’t go away even in 2026 and I wouldn’t write that in the article.

  • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Universal Android Debloater

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      On android you also have Shizuku and Canta.

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        Canta + Shizuku is what I use as well.

        Shizuku is a way to temporarily get semi-root privileges without needing a computer, via wireless debugging to your own phone.

        • Canta
        • Shizuku
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          I think you just do adb commands without a computer

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            That probably makes more sense

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        Thanks for the Canta recommendation!

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          I just run ADB.

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    I just install LineageOS. It doesn’t have any bloatware or Android modifications that the manufacturer added

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      That’s great if you have one of the handful of phones supported, but for the rest of us, not so much.

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        I bought my current phone specifically because it was supported by LineageOS. Before that I used an unsupported Samsung phone, which was such a shitty experience that I made a promise to myself that my next phone has to have custom ROMs available

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          Apart from the pixels, which current range of phones is supported?

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            You can find the supported devices in the list - https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/

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              And how many are current? Apart from the pixels, there’s nothing available where I live unless you buy second-hand (which has issues of its own).

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    • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      GrapheneOS > LineageOS, but unfortunately the list of supported devices is even smaller.

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        I like what GrapheneOS is doing, but it’s focused on having the absolute best security rather than supporting a lot of phones. If you aren’t wanted by three letter agencies then LineageOS is good enough

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          If you aren’t wanted by three letter agencies

          Keep in mind, you don’t have to be an activist or journalist to get targeted with sophisticated spyware. This very recent Lemmy post is a great example: https://slrpnk.net/post/15858999

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        And I can immediately say goodbye to important apps I need.

        I’m so fracking tired of not being able to just use the OS 😞 want on my phone because apparently my phone isn’t mine.

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          What does this have to do with GrapheneOS (compared to Lineage)? Did you reply to the wrong comment?

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            This is from some post where authy, revolut, and a bunch of other apps no longer permit Graphene OS

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            It seems to apply to all third party operating systems. I pretty much have to use stock or I can’t use my bank apps, can’t use my phone to prove I’m me when remote logging in to work

            I used to use cyanogen then lineage until security stuff made the phone too useless.

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    I don’t even pay any attention. I boot the phone for the very first time, go through the setup thing, and click no to as many things as possible, get into the home screen, open settings, open developer settings, turn on USB debugging, and turn the phone off and install lineage OS with no Google apps.

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    There’s bloatware?

    continues on using GrapheneOS

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      Not only is there bloatware, a fuckton of things prevent you from installing a custom OS on many phones ranging from DRM built into the phone, to the carrier your service is provided by. My phone is compatible with Graphene and I want Graphene; but TMO won’t let me unlock my phone to install Graphene (even though it’s fully paid off). 😠

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    Shizuku + canta and you can forget about bloatware

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    Worthless article. But the point is valid…

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    I haven’t considered Google android as usable for like a decade, went down the custom ROM route and it’s the best thing I’ve ever done when it comes to mobile use.

    Being able to install what ever operating system I want is a hard make or break for me when it comes to purchases ever since.

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    They bought it…

    Not my problem if someone doesn’t read the tiniest bit about a $600+ product before purchase.

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