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Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this.)

  • Sailor Sega Saturn@awful.systems
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    An update to my post about facebook from yesterday; turns out itā€™s much worse:

    https://transparency.meta.com/policies/community-standards/hateful-conduct/

    [Do not post} Insults, including those about [ā€¦] Mental characteristics, including but not limited to allegations of stupidity, intellectual capacity, and mental illness, and unsupported comparisons between PC groups on the basis of inherent intellectual capacity. We do allow allegations of mental illness or abnormality when based on gender or sexual orientation, given political and religious discourse about transgenderism and homosexuality and common non-serious usage of words like ā€œweird.ā€

    You can see the full diff from last version if you click ā€œJan 8, 2025ā€ and yeah itā€™s a doozy.

    Like many here on awful.systems I have a pretty thick skin, but reading the above put me in a really weird mood all day. I couldnā€™t really concentrate on work. Itā€™s hard to believe that they published this with a straight face, and harder to believe that the media isnā€™t dunking on them for it.

    On the bright side the policy technically lets you go around calling people insane for being straight or cisgender* if anyone is still on there and wants to get banned from that platform in a blaze of glory.

    * or indeed simply having a gender and Iā€™m not sure fascists know how to use words right.

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      It is very disturbing and scary.

      Theyā€™re explicitly carving out an exception to target sexual/gender minorities. And I wonder, given how they are often among the first groups being targeted, and then other groups follow, how long until they add more exceptions? How long until Meta modifies the rules further to e.g. explicitly allow racism too?

      Meta/Facebook has never been a good company. But the path they have actively chosen now is so much more evil than before.

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      Iā€™ve been around the internet a long time, and even back then when throwing slurs at each other and ā€œmaking funā€ of marginalized groups was, if not accepted, at least tolerated because it was considered some poor attempt at humor, I donā€™t remember ever seeing a rule or passage in any netiquette stating it that explicitly.

      It was always ā€œwe donā€™t censor speech but donā€™t be an assholeā€ with a giant asterisk about what both censoring and being an asshole meant, but I donā€™t think Iā€™ve ever seen even the worst places say, ā€œwe explicitly allow hate speech, go aheadā€.

      Holy fucking shitballs.

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      See this is why I try to do my reading here at night, because now when I feel sad and angry for the rest of the day itā€™s gonna be like 5 hours tops.

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      Like many here on awful.systems I have a pretty thick skin, but reading the above put me in a really weird mood all day.

      same here. the thing is, I think a lot of us are on awful.systems because weā€™ve seen far too much of how fascism operates and spreads online. this is an antifascist place; itā€™s so core to the mission that we donā€™t publish it as a policy (because a policy can be argued against and twisted and the fash kids love doing that), we just demonstrate it in a way that canā€™t be ignored. so seeing the first or second (I donā€™t keep track of these things) most popular social media platform publish a policy whose only purpose is to be used as a weapon against marginalized people, for it to be written in a matter-of-fact ā€œthis is just how it isā€ way, and for essentially nobody outside of the fediverse to push back on it in any real way ā€” that is shocking.

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          Now the new language merely bans ā€œunsupported comparisonsā€ between protected groupsā€™ on the basis of their ā€œinherent intellectual capacityā€

          Im sure we all noticed that this is also exactly one of those things which was allowed in the Rationalist places. And one of the reasons that it took them forever to get rid of slurinnameO on the ssc subreddit (E: He now moved to twitter where he has a terrifying 200k followers (cremieuxrecueil if you want to block the shithead)).