No, it’s not like stealing a physical item from a store.

“stealing” a digital copy of a movie, tv show or a game is like if the item you’re stealing from a store is infinitely copyable. Like the replicator from star trek…or that one episode of Sabrina the teenage witch with that box that can make a perfect copy of everything you put inside of it.

Of course I personally would never pirate anything, no matter how much streaming services increase their prices or how much they crack down on VPN usage to get around geo-restrictions, PIRACY IS BAD AND ONLY BAD PEOPLE DO IT.

I’ve never pirated anything in my whole life!

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    Personally I don’t really care too much about whether it’s moral or not. I pirate when I feel like it and don’t when I don’t feel like it. I also pay for some things that I pirated before and enjoyed as long as it isn’t too expensive.

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    Pirates constantly trying to “morally” justify their action is by far the worst part of all pirate forums.

    Its embarrassing how many pirates need the validation of strangers on the internet.

    Isn’t there a philosophy forum that these people could spam instead?

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    Piracy is a response to various kinds of market failure, inequality.

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    It is always morally acceptable?

    Morality is, literally, subjective. There is no universal answer to that question.

    I personally consider anything being sold by a distributor to be fair game, no questions asked. If I pay for mainstream music, films or games, most of the time, zero of that money goes to the workers who created those artworks. It just makes rich owners richer, because they legally own rights. I would go as far as to say it’s morally wrong to pay for those things, it’s not neutral, it’s supporting a cycle of abuse at your own expense. So that’s my perspective on your ‘giant corporations’ question.

    Digital copying isn’t stealing, unfortunately, because those giant companies deserve to have their hoard of capital expropriated.

    Two screenshots. The first is a headline: "The world's richest countries came up with just $22 million to fight the Amazon fires.", the second lists the budget for The Emoji Movie: $50 million.[src]

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      But if not a lot of sales are made, they won’t work with the same people again and will play more safely, and we’ll get less diversity

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    No but i dont care

    I’ve been pirating for years. I just don’t want to pay for things

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      This is me.

      I just don’t care about the moral or ethical considerations.

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    It is always morally preferrable to pirate things made by giant corporations

    Fixed It For You.

    Regardless of what is regarded as a crime against the state, it is wrongdoing against the public to support corporations that seek to extract more wealth than value they produce.

    Intellectual property rights were a (very) temporary monopoly to give creators an incentive to create in order to build a robust public domain.

    Copyrights, patents and trademarks no longer do that. So charging for content is now rent-seeking

    Corporations, their share holders and the plutocrats who own them pull wealth out of the economy by hoarding it. The whenever you buy from anything but directly from the creator, you are reducing the wealth in the economy since your money goes straight into Scrooge McDuck’s swimming coffers.

    And our public domain only contains stuff from a century ago. Steamboat Willie became public domain just a year or two ago. Copyright holders and courts even assert all content should be owned and licensed, including SCOTUS. (Though the US Supreme Court is a traitor to the United States and its constitution.)

    Pirate everything. Steal from companies for they have already stolen from you.

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    My moral is always on match with that of the company so in most cases everything is acceptable.

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    No, it’s not like stealing a physical item from a store.

    I’d argue stealing physical items from massive corporations is also morally acceptable. If you shoplift from a small mom & pop store, you’re actively hurting your community, however, if you shoplift from Wal-Mart, you’re actively hurting an entity which is hurting your community, therefore helping your community.

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      Shoplifting from Walmart hurts my knees because the boss won’t believe that our onhand numbers are wrong and makes me check high and low before I can nil pick it 🥲

      This isn’t an ethical argument against shoplifting btw, this is an ethical argument in favor of nuking Walmart

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      If you shoplift from a small mom & pop store, you’re actively hurting your community

      Unless you’re part of a riot, then it’s okay.

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    Worrying about “property” of any parasite is something that I never bother to do.

    Giving money to your enemy is idiotic tho.

    There is a class war out there and normies are too busy funding their oppressors

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      Giving money to your enemy is idiotic tho. There is a class war out there and normies are too busy funding their oppressors

      Absolutely. At the end of the day, most of the moral ideals being thrown around are, at the end of the day, nice ideas.

      Giant corporations exist to get more money and, history shows, media companies will happily brainwash us and buy oppressive politicians just to push their profits up. Furthermore, they serve as a megaphone for the ideas of the owner class, who are historically the core force behind fascism when society is in crisis.

      Giving them your resources is fucking suicidal.