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  • happybadger [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I firmly maintain that 9/11 is a classic case of pareidolia. Humans intrinsically seek patterns where they don’t exist. If five Boeing planes crash at the same time and the 20 year history since has represented the consequences of Boeing’s ratfucking, I’m left with it being coincidental accidents/pilot error. More than five Boeing planes have crashed since then but we don’t consider them 9/12.

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    I once had a dream where I went to New York and they had this awesome airport that was in the WTC. Like a runway was cut out into the twin towers, the planes were constantly coming in and landing there.

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    If I’m honest, I don’t believe the official story at all.

    Too many holes. Too many weird coincidences.

    One that I see few people talking about is Philip D Zelikow. He is an ideologue for the right. And his main work was on myths and civilization building, how civilizations are built (or re-built) around myths.

    He had a very interesting article a few years before 9/11 about how the US needed a major tragic event, like a terror attack, like bombing in the WTC, to kickstart a new myth. To shape the future of the country, shift its direction from the last major myth (WW2 and the fight against communism) after the victory at “the end of history”.

    This guy was put in charge of writing up the official story from the 9/11 commission.

    I don’t know what exactly happened. But I don’t believe the official story is all I can say.

    It feels too much like the shady CIA operations we have lots of details for now from the 50s and 60s. Like I can see a Blowback on 9/11 in a few years. Or an Eyes Wide Open.

    I really recommend Eyes Wide Open on YouTube btw. And James Corbett on 9/11 stuff as well. Both super well sourced.

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    I fell down the conspiracy rabbit hole like almost 20 years ago (Jesus I can’t believe it’s that long…) and I remember reading about how the buildings were either closed or had parts closed off for maintenance days/weeks before the attacks.

    I “found the plot” again and crawled back out of the conspiracy hole, but I haven’t revisited any of those conspiracies so I have no idea if that part is even true or not. It would be the time for them to plant explosives though lol

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      OK so every conspiracy about the actual physical building is written by people who have no idea about anything at all.

      It really mirrors the JFK grassy knoll, multiple shooter shit- the interesting questions are all about whether the CIA put him up to it, and the theories about how he shot a bullet at a guy’s head are really distractions. Like if the CIA didn’t come up with those physics conspiracies, they would have kicked themselves for being so stupid.

      The official story is that intelligence knew 9/11 was maybe gonna happen and somehow ignored it.

      But it was PLANES. They let PLANES hit buildings. If it was an op, the op was done with fucking planes!

      Like okay, the biggest 9/11 truther meme is “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” - this one is so fucking embarrassing. Steel performs like shit in fires. Wood is literally way better.

      I’ll say it again: Steel fails faster than wood in a fire. Steel is dog shit in a fire. Steel doesn’t need to MELT in order to fail. The melting point is where it becomes liquid like soup. Before it becomes soup, it becomes play-dough. Before that, it becomes weak steel that can’t hold up a giant-ass building.

      Every 9/11 truther confidently said “but jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” millions of times, and didn’t have the brains to picture a blacksmith bending moderately hot metal like it’s rubber.

      “Why did it fall like that though? That’s not how—” Because it was built like an eggshell. The tiny windows were because basically the entire strength of the structure was on the outer edge. Practically no buildings are built that way, because it kind of sucks ass.

      Talking about dumb shit like thermite is just a distraction from asking if the worst intelligence failure in American history was an accident and exploited, or done on purpose.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      The biggest hole that 9/11 truthers can’t account for is the fact that the US basically invaded every single country except for the countries the hijackers came from. I guess the CIA intern accidentally printed out fake Saudi passports instead of fake Iranian ones, but the lead CIA case officer decided to just run with it.