• ComradeMonotreme [she/her, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    One of the nice ambiguities of Magneto is his costume. Traditionally prime colors (the art ones not physics) are for heroes and secondary for villains or “monstrous” heroes like the Hulk and Thing. There are some exceptions but most golden to Bronze Age heroes fit this pattern. Once you see this you can’t unseen it everywhere.

    Magneto though is one of the few/earliest with both a primary color (red) and secondary (purple). The contrasting heroic and villainous aspects of his character.

    Also red is traditionally a color of revolution and purple of monarchy, so he contains that contradiction as well. He is both the mutant revolutionary but also would be mutant king.

    Finally he has a cape which are less common in marvel but still generally heroic garment, but then he has a sinister looking helmet which is more of a villain item. Often when he is more heroic he is depicted sans helmet and putting it on is when he descends into villainy (it’s telepathy blocking was actually invented by the movies).

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    The reason X men doesn’t work is because the main villain is basically the only person in the universe that is thinking about anything

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      I gotta be real, if that universe existed and I lived in it i would be nervous that any random can just get the power to control the weather and stuff at that kind of scale. A lot could go real bad real quick. Some teenager finds out he creates a nuclear explosion when he stomps his feet or things along those lines being a factor would be really scary.

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        Just wait for the next comic where everything is reset you can forget all about it.

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        I think there’ve also been multiple global infections - viral, psychic, and nanotech - that were all designed to either make people hate mutants (more), randomly make them into mutants, or just plain ol’ kill mutants. Marvel Earth is cursed.

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    Need to have a Magneto movie, I’m thinking the plot is that he wants to stop the government from doing fashy shit, gets stopped by the X Men because Professor X wants to vote the fash out of office, the fashy shit happens exactly like the fashy government guys said it would, Magneto gets busted out of plastic jail by radicalized former X Men, saves the world by killing a bunch of fashy government dudes. Film ends with him standing by Prof Xs grave, who was killed by the FBI, and teasing a sequel where he will fully overthrow the government. It’d be the best X Men film since Logan.

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      As with all things comics: it depends on the writer. Some writers do approach him as a genocidal mutant supremacist who sees humanity as inferior beings…but thats frankly boring and shallow. The more interesting take on magneto is that he’s basically a pragmatic fatalist. His experiences in the Holocaust and the nature of mutation and evolutionary history have convinced him that coexistence simply isn’t possible. Tragic though it may be, a genocidal war that ends with one survivor is unavoidable and inevitable.

      To this point…he’s had several solutions he’s been open to. He’s seen killing them all as the most likely outcome but he’s also considered complete peaceful separation or even co-existsnce.

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      It’s probably different with each reboot and timeline. In the first movie, he built a machine in the statue of liberty to turn everyone into a mutant I think.

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      During Claremont’s run (this issue is from that run) it was conquer humanity and rule via an enlightened monarchy until they went extint naturally like it happened with neanderthals

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    “Look that sounds great, but you killed some people (who admittedly also killed a LOT MORE people and were trying to kill you) so were gonna have to overthrow you in the name of freedom and democracy.”

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    Magneto and some versions of Dr. Doom are way too sympathetic at points.

    So naturally they have the do random evil shit at points like being friends with Captain Israel.

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    Usually when a person tries to change it for thw better make it utopian or some shit, even with less side effect, there is always some shit like “oh youre trying to play god” or life is meaningless without struggle. Then in the next couple of issues there is the reminder that there exists the plane of hell where countless innocents are tortured for eternity and the so called villain you lectured probably would have rid the multiverse of it